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To: DugwayDuke
No one has posted a credible source showing the vaccines have caused any deaths yet some insist they have.

There's plenty evidence of likely deaths and of hospitalizations including ICU stays in VAERS.

I was candidly VERY surprised (being as I'm generally "pro" vaccine) at how many reported deaths (over 1,100 last time I looked about 2 weeks ago) and serious adverse effects being reported post-vaccine. Some of the cases will scare the blue snot out of anyone who reads them - there's a pretty broad range of very serious reactions being reported. And based on my research, I've concluded the CDC and others are (surprise!) lying outright to us about the "mild" effects one may experience.

In my own case, shot #1 (Pfizer) has kicked my tail hard. I've been pretty sick for about a week now. Pretty apprehensive for that reason about shot #2 which we all know is reported to be worse in those who have reactions, as "worse" might just put me in the hospital based on how bad I reacted to shot #1..

The CDC and skeptics will say there is no proof of "causality", but as I've said before..if many of the cases in VAERS (as well as my own reaction) were not in fact caused by the vaccine, it's one heck of a coincidence over..and over..and over..

56 posted on 03/21/2021 2:28:09 PM PDT by jstolzen
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To: jstolzen

jstolzen wrote: “There’s plenty evidence of likely deaths and of hospitalizations including ICU stays in VAERS”

It’s tempting to blame the vaccines but one should remember “post hoc ergo propter hoc” That is an informal fallacy that states: “Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X. You wouldn’t believe that a crowing rooster causes the sunrise. So far there has been no deaths that can be said were caused by the vaccines.

Take for example, anaphylaxis, which is one of the things that some wish to blame on the vaccines. The National Health Service of the UK list these common anaphylaxis triggers:

-foods – including nuts, milk, fish, shellfish, eggs and some fruits

-medicines – including some antibiotics and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) like aspirin

-insect stings – particularly wasp and bee stings
general anaesthetic

-contrast agents – dyes used in some medical tests to help certain areas of your body show up better on scans

-latex – a type of rubber found in some rubber gloves and condoms

-In some cases, there’s no obvious trigger. This is known as idiopathic anaphylaxis.

Obviously, with so many other triggers, just because some dies from anaphylaxis after taking the vaccine does not mean that the vaccine caused anaphylaxis yet you will see that claimed many times.

You should remember that over 100 million doses have been given to date. Most of these doses went to the oldest and most frail among us. Is 1000 deaths in this cohort surprising? That’s one in 100 thousand.

Two other things.
While you were hard hit by the vaccine, was the hit as hard as the virus would have been?
Wife and I had our 2nd pfizer on Thursday. None event. Not even a sore arm. BTW, I had surgery in mid-feb. Eight hours on the operating table. That should have put my immune system into overdrive which would have made me more susceptible to vaccine reactions. Nothing.
Don’t be discouraged by the claims on the internet. There are many working overtime to disparage the vaccines and to convince you that you should take Vitamin D instead.


57 posted on 03/21/2021 2:58:01 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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