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To: woodpusher; ScubaDiver
Thanks for pinging me on this. It's a fascinating discussion...much over my head though I do follow and understand. I was going to declare myself an innocent bystander but something about all this was gnawing at me.

I believe all this should be covered under his pardon and should be mooted. Flynn's Statement of Offense includes statements made about FARA and The Flynn Intel Group to include the Turkey project.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download
includes this:

"Other False Statements Regarding FLYNN's Contacts with Foreign Governments
5. On March 7, 2017, FLYNN filed multiple documents with the Department of Justice pursuant to the Foreign Agents Registration Act ("FARA") pertaining to a project performed by him and his company, the Flynn Intel Group, Inc. ("FIG"), for the principal benefit of the Republic of Turkey ("Turkey project"). In the FARA filings, FLYNN made materially false statements and omissions, including by falsely stating that (a) FIG did not know whether or the extent to which the Republic of Turkey was involved in the Turkey project, (b) the Turkey project was focused on improving U.S. business organizations' confidence regarding doing business in Turkey, and (c) an op-ed by FLYNN published in The Hill on November 8, 2016, was written at his own initiative; and by omitting that officials from the Republic of Turkey provided supervision and direction over the Turkey project."


President Trump's pardon, IMO, is absolute. It should and does cover this.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/politics/flynn-pardon-read-file/index.html

Not sure how Gen. Flynn can be investigated for this.

"A FULL AND UNCONDITIONAL PARDON for the charge of making false statements to Federal investigators, ...
and for any and all possible offenses arising out of facts and circumstances known to, identified by, or in any manner related to the investigation of the Special Counsel,..."

77 posted on 03/14/2021 1:10:36 PM PDT by stylin19a (Golf is a game invented by the same people who think music comes out of a bagpipe.)
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To: stylin19a

Presidential pardons only cover criminal liability, not civil liability.

As an example, if you cheat on your taxes and are convicted of tax fraud, a presidential pardon will release you from prison and will remove all criminal and civil sanctions (like the R2KBA) that were imposed at sentencing. However, you STILL owe in back taxes whatever you owed before the pardon.

Also, let’s say you own a business and received a civil fine, either from those agencies or pursuant to a federal lawsuit from the EPA or Labor Department for unsafe work practices. Those fines are beyond the power of the president to undo or forgive.

This is probably the most misunderstood element of the presidential pardon authority.


78 posted on 03/14/2021 1:27:58 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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