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WHO WILL TELL THE GREENS THERE IS NO BATTERY FAIRY?
Powerline ^ | 01/31/2021 | Steven Hayward

Posted on 01/31/2021 10:41:59 AM PST by DFG

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To: DFG

Electricity comes from the outlet!


61 posted on 01/31/2021 11:50:17 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Socialism- Institutionalized Deprivation)
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To: marktwain

Just like fusion power?


62 posted on 01/31/2021 11:50:56 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cyclotic
And some toll roads are putting charging stations in their service plazas.

My longest single day on the road covered about 1,220 miles. Don’t try this at home, kids. LOL.

63 posted on 01/31/2021 11:54:31 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: facedown

Elon just contacted to buy 50% of the output of a lithium mine just down the road from me, here in NC, for the next five years.


64 posted on 01/31/2021 11:55:17 AM PST by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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To: Truthoverpower

Sodium batteries are thought to be a possible replacement for lithium-ion.

https://newatlas.com/energy/sodium-battery-alternative-lithium/


65 posted on 01/31/2021 11:56:42 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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To: Truthoverpower; nevergore

Sodium batteries will be interesting. Far more environmentally friendly than lithium-ion

https://www.chemeurope.com/en/news/topic/sodium-ion-batteries/


66 posted on 01/31/2021 12:02:14 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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To: mo
"ya really can’t tell a Leftist much of anything..."

I agree. I've stopped talking about politics and
environmental issues with the liberal Leftists
acquaintances I still have. They're beyond hope.
Even my own daughter is being deceived by the brainwashing
from the university she attends and that I pay for.
(She became a Biden/Harris/Bernie supporter. There's
still hope for her though.)

Perhaps the only way for them to wake up is for them
to really suffer the consequences of the policies
they advocate. Unfortunately everyone else will suffer too.

67 posted on 01/31/2021 12:04:22 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Jonty30

Ideology aside.....

If the ROI of electrical vehicles surpasses hydrocarbons, that will be the next tech revolution.......

I fully expect that will happen at some point in the not to distant future.....

The latest vehicle from Tesla has a 640-mile range which beats all hydrocarbon vehicles.... it can supposedly recharge to 80% in about 1 hour...... Its ROI is still higher than a hydrocarbon vehicle but its performance exceeds supercars.....

Not there yet, but soon......


68 posted on 01/31/2021 12:04:53 PM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: nevergore

While I agree with you on that, I don’t think it will happen.

Being first out of the intersection, when the light goes green, is a not a high priority with me. I’m more concerned about being able to travel the distance in the middle of winter in a headwind, while towing a load. That’s a real world performance that I do care about.

As far as I know, we are nowhere near to eliminating that problem.


69 posted on 01/31/2021 12:08:58 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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To: DFG

LOL! post/comments ^


70 posted on 01/31/2021 12:09:46 PM PST by PGalt (confirmed: past peak civilization)
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To: DFG

There is no cleaner energy than hydro-electric & nuclear power. The Green Weenies all hate those types of energy. They do so because they are educated to the point of stupidity!


71 posted on 01/31/2021 12:11:05 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign! )
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To: mo

“If you disagree with me, you’re a poopy-head”!


72 posted on 01/31/2021 12:11:16 PM PST by Does so (Joe Biden: "I don't know what I'm signing". Off-screen female: "Just sign it". SERF--PEON Party. )
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To: DFG

73 posted on 01/31/2021 12:12:57 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Jonty30
"I’m more concerned about being able to travel the distance in the middle of winter in a headwind while towing a load. That’s a real-world performance that I do care about."

Not an issue with the new vehicles......we are no longer looking at Prius type vehicles.....

Electric has always been superior at load performance, look at trains, all-electric engines.......

Over 600 mile range....

74 posted on 01/31/2021 12:14:31 PM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: alloysteel

I hate when that happens !


75 posted on 01/31/2021 12:15:34 PM PST by Reily
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To: dangus
That is a simplistic statement about lithium or any battery chemistry for that matter. It works for the electrochemistry class but not the real world.

Real world.... Batteries wear out... All rechargeable batteries have a finite life. They have a stated number of recharge cycles before their recharge capacity is depleted below the rainy required by the duty. The battery may have some mechanical deterioration or chemical interferences that diminishes performance. It doesn't matter though, the battery is worn out. Lithium batteries are not immune to this.

So, we have a worn out lithium battery and hypothetically, nothing has leaked out via a mechanical issue so it's all still contained. Fine. Some number of the batteries are not recycled. Fact of life - Lithium is lost. Recycling is not the same as perfect recovery - Lithium is lost. Another fact of life.

76 posted on 01/31/2021 12:15:58 PM PST by Hootowl99
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To: marktwain

We are far from cheap battery technology.

Even with cheap batteries, we have to generate the electricity needed to power the batteries.

All this is on the misguided idea that carbon is a pollutant that has negative effects. An outright lie.

Even if true, it isn’t, a warmer climate would be a boon to humanity as well as much of nature. Buy a globe. Look at the land masses. Much of it is in Canada & Siberia. Imagine how much arable land is trapped under all that ice.

10,000 years ago the home I live in would have been under 2 miles of ice. 2 miles! A warmer climate is a more livable climate!


77 posted on 01/31/2021 12:16:38 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign! )
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To: DFG
I wonder if there is anyone working on making the electric motors use less electricity. Probably, but I never see anything about these motors.

It would be like how we can now make more powerful gas engines that use less gas.

78 posted on 01/31/2021 12:20:12 PM PST by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: marktwain

He sounds like the media during 0bama’s term, where the economy was “about to take off”. Soon, real soon now, any day...


79 posted on 01/31/2021 12:22:09 PM PST by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Batteries do wear out but, as far as I have read, if sodium batteries can be commercialized that would solved the disposal and recycling problem altogether.


80 posted on 01/31/2021 12:26:24 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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