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Should Trump create The Patriot Party or reform the GOP?
The Conservative Brief ^ | 1/20/21 | Martin Walsh

Posted on 01/21/2021 9:20:20 AM PST by NewRightNetwork

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To: SmokingJoe
Nothing will happen against Joe's left wing craziness, because the Republicans in Congress only want to pick up their paychecks, and are satisfied with the status quo. If they weren't satisfied with it, they wouldn't have legitimized unlimited voter fraud, and now in the Senate, Republicans are contemplating convicting a civilian, simply because they're scared to death of him. Does that sound like a group of politicians who have our best interest at heart, or are willing to fight for us?

Anybody that expects the Republicans to fight back against crazy Joe and the Democrats is deluding themselves. The Republican Party can't be counted on to do the right thing. They colluded with the Democrats, and the Globalists to remove President Trump from office. They can't be trusted, and will disappoint at every turn. They've proven that many times already.

221 posted on 01/22/2021 11:17:36 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: crz

If you build a precinct organization and allow average voters to contribute time (where they might not have money in 2022 and onward), you will have an organization that can have a platform that represents the majority of voters instead of just a corporate elite that is currently spoiled for choice (which allows them drive harder bargains).

Secession will turn us into Bosnia, so its a nonstarter.

A new Patriot Party will do little but divide the GOP and reinvigorate the Dems, which will then have a nice weak target to demagogue and scare people about.

No, the best move for the GOP is to learn from its mistakes (whether it wants to or not) and to become a workers party, which fits very nicely with its beginnings. We’ve plenty of history of Marxist movements producing landless serfs and large piles of dead bodies, though the Dems keep flirting with that, no surprises. Most people are more practical than that. A populist GOP could win with huge margins. You can’t cheat huge margins like you can a close race.


222 posted on 01/22/2021 11:39:23 AM PST by BlackAdderess (IMO Congress is a symptom whereas K Street is the problem)
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To: BlackAdderess
A new Patriot Party will do little but divide the GOP and reinvigorate the Dems, which will then have a nice weak target to demagogue and scare people about.

No, the best move for the GOP is to learn from its mistakes

No. F that! Patriot Party or die. Everybody needs to stop being such a pussy and start backing the party that President Trump is forming.

223 posted on 01/22/2021 11:42:24 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: BlackAdderess

“Secession will turn us into Bosnia, so its a nonstarter.”

Let me know how you will feel about that in a few weeks. After they move to make Washington DC a state.

You will change your mind.


224 posted on 01/22/2021 12:38:42 PM PST by crz
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To: crz

No I won’t, what can be done by overreaching Democrats can boomerang in their smug smarmy faces causing them to poop their pants. I used to say causing tears, but it appears something more dramatic is in the offing when things don’t go as expected in Lefty land.


225 posted on 01/22/2021 12:52:05 PM PST by BlackAdderess (IMO Congress is a symptom whereas K Street is the problem)
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To: Sirius Lee

Really. Thats the hill


226 posted on 01/22/2021 1:03:12 PM PST by BlackAdderess (IMO Congress is a symptom whereas K Street is the problem)
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To: BlackAdderess

“overreaching Democrats”

You must have a hard time realizing what just happened.

The democrats took the election by stealing it. They dont care. And they will continue to take elections that way forever.

They will eliminate the filibuster and from then on the present castrated GOP will never hold another majority.

BTW, the AZ GOP is crying because they have lost over 5000 of their supporters since Jan 6th.

The AZ GOP and the rest of the national GOP can go eff themselves.


227 posted on 01/22/2021 1:08:47 PM PST by crz
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To: crz

What I have seen is 25% Republican, 31% Democrat, and a vast number of Independents who have no input outside of the Uniparty Red and Uniparty Blue candidates. This has been a situation decades in the making and at this point our representatives represent not us.

What has happened goes WAY beyond one side stealing votes from the other because both of them are screwing us.

I want a fundamental change where we all go and talk to our neighbors and form an Eisenhower-era campaign and lobbying command structure based on precincts, which is actually pretty resistant to the Democrats usual sabotage of organizations.


228 posted on 01/22/2021 1:25:32 PM PST by BlackAdderess (IMO Congress is a symptom whereas K Street is the problem)
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To: crz

The vote will be easily tipped one way or the other as long as the vote is evenly split because the issues most people actually care about are forbidden and we are stuck instead with an unappetizing menu of divisive fringe issues.

How well do you think allowing our economy to be hollowed out in order to prop up other countries that have a higher standard of living than our own will poll?

How about polling our citizens being forced to subsidize the entire world’s healthcare while paying a minimum of twice as much as anyone else?


229 posted on 01/22/2021 1:53:42 PM PST by BlackAdderess (IMO Congress is a symptom whereas K Street is the problem)
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To: John 3_19-21

Let’s throw away our current advantage.


230 posted on 01/22/2021 2:32:03 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

Advantage?


231 posted on 01/22/2021 5:06:22 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (There's two ways to enslave a people; work them without pay or pay them without work.)
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To: mabarker1

No argument here


232 posted on 01/23/2021 4:07:02 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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To: Cinnamontea

Yep.


233 posted on 01/23/2021 4:07:29 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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To: John 3_19-21

90+% rank and file support in the GOP.
Use that for a hostile takeover of the GOP, that’s the advantage.


234 posted on 01/23/2021 7:27:50 AM PST by Reily
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To: Reily
I think your numbers are wishful at best.

A third party if it were possible given the uniparty establishment's hold on political power would crush the GOP.

It would also break the polarization of the entire political landscape.

Our stagnant two party juggernaut has brought us where we are today.
235 posted on 01/23/2021 8:39:07 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (There's two ways to enslave a people; work them without pay or pay them without work.)
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To: John 3_19-21

If we were a parliamentary system you would be right.
Our system as long as we actually follow it forces everything down to two parties\factions. Those who want more central government vs those who don’t. In fact the current major parties have switched sides on that issue. Anyway the party names are irrelevant.

Currently Trump and his policies are favored by 90+% of the rank and file of the GOP. Use those numbers for a hostile takeover of the GOP, vote out RINOs & timeserving seatwarmers from the Senate\House to governor to state legislature down to precinct captain. It can be done by the next election cycle. Not done 100% but the message will be sent out loud and clear. Choose the other path form a 3rd party you take that 47% reliable voting demographic and you split it. 47% is already less the 50%, splitting it doesn’t make it larger then 50% ! Split it via a 3rd party and you doom conservatism to decades of irrelevancy maybe permanently particularly if the Rats can change the current structure of our government.


236 posted on 01/23/2021 9:09:58 AM PST by Reily
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To: Reily
When you clarify that the 90% support is more accurately Trump support that just GOP support we are in agreement.

However the old adage that all politics is local applies.

The rino wing of the GOP controls the primary laws and rules of even the most conservative states. Limpsey Graham has been "reelected" through this control. If a true conservative attempts to run for a GOP controlled office they are summarily despatched by the uniparty and the media.

For over a decade the TEA party, silent Majority, or what ever you want to call this massive movement has tried to succeed with in the control of the GOP. It will never work.br>
As I see it we have two political choices; give in or move out.
237 posted on 01/23/2021 10:52:29 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (There's two ways to enslave a people; work them without pay or pay them without work.)
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To: John 3_19-21

“...The rino wing of the GOP controls the primary laws and rules of even the most conservative states. ....”

1. Do they physically prevent you or others from voting for different non-RINO party officers from precinct captain up to county and state committeeman\woman?

I know for a fact very few people show up at those meetings. At that level RINOs primarily get their way by default !

2. Do they prevent non-RINOS from physically registering to run to challenge RINOS?

3. Do they physically prevent you or others from voting for non-RINOS?

The TEA party wasn’t centrally organized which was both its strength and weakness. And nothing happens instantly too many people get frustrated when things don’t go their way the first time. They then take their toys and go home and yammer about a 3rd party. It’s not supposed to be easy.


238 posted on 01/23/2021 12:56:11 PM PST by Reily
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To: crz

TRUE.


239 posted on 01/24/2021 4:12:14 PM PST by Ambrosia (Born in NC, then PA, NY,WV, NM, SC, and FL & back God/Freedom=Priority!)
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To: crz

I agree with that. I think Lincoln was the reason for the success of the Republican Party. He had been a Whig.


240 posted on 01/24/2021 4:13:58 PM PST by Ambrosia (Born in NC, then PA, NY,WV, NM, SC, and FL & back God/Freedom=Priority!)
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