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New ABC News Poll Shows Trump Charging Forward, Leading In Key States
Red State ^ | 09/23/2020 | Bonchie

Posted on 09/23/2020 4:48:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: T Ruth

They rarely show their internal samplings, usually inflating Dems by several points.


41 posted on 09/23/2020 6:22:52 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: gibsonguy

Nobody watches them.


42 posted on 09/23/2020 6:24:18 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: MrChips

The riots will carry Trump to a win...then he should send in army with live ammo and shot anyone rioting..


43 posted on 09/23/2020 6:25:18 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: SeekAndFind

Click the map to create your own at 270toWin.com

44 posted on 09/23/2020 6:27:07 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Hojczyk

The polls will get better and better as we approach the election...they do not want to look like fools...there fake polls are not working evidently


45 posted on 09/23/2020 6:28:01 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Midwesterner53

My state (CT) just sent a request for absentee ballot form to a “registered voter” at my address.

They haven’t lived here for _thirty_ years—no clue whether they are even alive or dead, or where they live if alive.


46 posted on 09/23/2020 6:32:21 PM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Trump has got PA, mark it down.


47 posted on 09/23/2020 6:36:26 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

What makes you confident about PA?


48 posted on 09/23/2020 6:39:18 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: SeekAndFind

Time for the media to save face. They likely do not want to look as foolish as in 2016. They have pushed the “Biden trumping Trump” narrative about as far as they can take it.


49 posted on 09/23/2020 6:57:10 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: cgbg

“My state (CT) just sent a request for absentee ballot form to a ‘registered voter” at my address.”

That’s really ass backward. The VOTER does the requesting for a true absentee ballot. The state doesn’t (isn’t supposed to) send them out willy-nilly. This is the fraud we were anticipating.


50 posted on 09/23/2020 7:08:19 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Disappointment is inevitable. Discouragement is a choice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can only guess, but the media/polls (same thing) got it SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wrong last time and its going to be such a LANDSLIDE this time, that they are realizing that even they can’t drag Biden across the finish line. So they better try to save a little face now.

Trump will triumphantly be crossing the finish line while Biden is still in the basement watching TV to see himself cross the finish line first.


51 posted on 09/23/2020 7:11:45 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Is this map your realistic, or worst case scenario?


52 posted on 09/23/2020 7:27:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: MayflowerMadam

Fill it out for your cat.


53 posted on 09/23/2020 7:33:02 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: SeekAndFind
RE:The only way he loses is with massive and I mean MASSIVE mail in voter fraud

Election software firm Tyler Technologies discloses system hack: Report

54 posted on 09/23/2020 8:30:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The only way he loses is with massive and I mean MASSIVE mail in voter fraud.”

Even with the traditional and customary 2-4% vote fraud that the Dems get, Trump will win. Anything bigger than that will be impossible to cover up and then there will be...”trouble”. I hope that they don’t try it. Well, let me think about that.


55 posted on 09/23/2020 8:36:51 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (Wht then small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: b4me

It makes people relate and it offsets the gun grabber Kelly running on his astronaut days.

There was also a big difference in her self confidence, she held herself different, walked different, was more comfortable in her skin and that came across on camera. Kelly is leading, if Arizona doesn’t want two democrat senators we need to get behind her. Most of us will vote for her, it’s the swing voters we need.


56 posted on 09/24/2020 4:19:03 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Kamala tosses out race cards as fast as a Las Vegas Blackjack dealer)
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To: gibsonguy

Yes. These smear attempts cry out their authors’ awareness and laments that their Basement Dweller/Ineligible Whore ticket is a loser. (Who could’ve guessed?)


57 posted on 09/24/2020 4:57:38 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: MinorityRepublican; TexasFreeper2009
What makes you confident about PA?

One big reason is the Keystone State voters calling BS on Biden now (but not before) declaring that his is against banning fracking.

58 posted on 09/24/2020 5:08:49 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (I Need Joe Biden to Unmask Me So I Don't Have to Wear Them)
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s interesting is that ABC admits it.


59 posted on 09/24/2020 9:55:41 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Even their own polls aren’t working for them any more. Consider below. Note, this accepts the polls at face value, which is problematic of course, but pretends worst case interpretation of current standings. So it takes their numbers and then also assumes 3.5% of Trump supporters won’t self-identify to pollsters. No idea if that is an accurate rate or not but based on other things I’ve read, it is likely at least 3%, probably higher.

Real Clear Politics often buries the fact that their averaging sometimes treats polls from as far back as January as equally weighted as one from last week, which makes no sense. If, instead one looks at the polls within the last month or so, one finds:

Wisconsin: Biden +6.6 - 3.5 = Biden +3.1

Florida: Biden + 1.3 - 3.5 = Trump +2.2

Pennsylvania: RCP shows Biden as +9 but this includes a Marist poll from 9/7 that seems to be an outlier. Taking that out, one gets an average of Biden + 3.8 -3.5 = Biden +0.3

North Carolina: Biden +0.8 - 3.5 = Trump +2.7

Michigan: Biden +5.2 - 3.5 = Biden +1.7

Arizona: Biden +3.2 - 3.5 = Trump +0.3

Minnesota: includes a recent seemingly outlier poll showing Biden as +16 but using their average of +10.2 - 3.5 = Biden +6.7. Still think this is not accurate, however

Ohio: only one poll within the past month which is Rasmussen showing as Biden +4. +4 - 3.5 = Biden +0.5 but this was at the beginning of the month before Trump started catching up in their polls. So, seems Trump at least slightly ahead now.

Iowa: RCP shows as a tie + 3.5 = Trump +3.5

Nevada: Only two polls, one from January showing Biden +8 and one from the beginning of September showing Biden +4. The +4 is more relevant arguably and +4 - 3.5 = Biden +0.5 but, again, this is before reflecting the massive inroads Trump has made in polling over the past month, particularly among Hispanic voters. It suggests Trump is currently ahead in Nevada

New Hampshire: Only one poll from September, about second week of the month - shows Biden +3. Less 3.5 = Trump +0.5

Maine: September polls show Biden ~+16.7. I recognize this doesn’t reflect the fact ME splits and it’s still possible Trump might win that, but since I am assuming worst case scenario using their polls, putting it all as Biden

Virginia: Not enough polling to show for sure- showed Biden +11 at beginning of month and he’s +5 now. Putting as Biden but getting close

Georgia: Trump + 2 or tied in most recent polls + 3.5 = Trump win

Texas: Trump ~+2.5 in recent polls + 3.5 = Trump ~+6

Colorado: Hasn’t been a poll since August. Shows Biden as +10 and only poll on record. Highly suspect given lack of polls but putting as Biden since worst case assumptions

New Mexico: Only one poll in September and was at very beginning of month, showing Biden +15. Again, suspect but assuming worst case.

So, what does all this mean? It means that even properly adjusting their biased polls shows the following: Trump 269-Biden 269 with the assumption that Trump picks up the other +1 for Nebraska (mostly because I gave the Maine +1 to Biden).

In other words, even interpreting these polls in the worst light possible to Trump, even assuming these polls are accurate (when they’re biased in favor of Ds) even these garbage polls are still showing essentially a tie, or, more likely, Trump winning. If even their garbage polls can’t hide what appears to be trending towards a Trump win, you know it will end up being a big win.


60 posted on 09/24/2020 10:51:09 AM PDT by ReelectTrump2020
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