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To: montag813

There are most likely some well-informed Freepers still paying attention. Just because the media and the two corporations, Democrat and Republican, participated doesn’t mean the law has been changed. It can only be changed by amendment or Article V Convention. It never has been changed, just ignored. None of the presidential aspirants or presumed ascendants, Kamala Harris, Obama, Cruz, Jindal, Rubio, McCain, pr Nikki Halley was Constitutionally eligible.

Before the 14th Amendment defined the who was a citizen by naturalization, only natural born citizens were defined in the Constitution. When Virginia Minor sued for suffrage rights after the passage of the 14th Amendment the Supreme Court only had jurisdiction of Minor was a citizen, which she was because she was a Natural Born Citizen. Thus this 1885 case was the first to require the common law definition of Natural Born Citizen to be clarified, and it was. The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

Larry Tribe, Constitutional Law professor for both Obama dn Cruz admitted as much, but sneakily, in his letter to the Senate Resolution trying to claim what neither the Constituiion nor the Congress said, that were the fonders around before the 2008 election, they would have made McCain a Natural Born Citizen. The real objective to was cover for Obama’s ineligibility (Obama never was and never claimed to a NBC; he said, “I was a nartural born subject of the British Commonwealth because my father was a British Subject”.

There is a presumption that the Vice President must satisfy the Constitution requirements of the President, but this writer could find no such requirement. A guess is that in ineligible VP might take over until the Congress gets around to appointing an eligible person. The Presidency is the only government office requireing both citizen parents and birth on soverign U.S. Sooil. When McCain was born, in 1936, the Canal Zone was not yet declared sovereign soil by Congress. Everyone in Congress in 2008 knew the truth, and Obama even sponsored with Clair McCaskill to make him eligible. It would have been moot, but failed in Congress. Thus a non-binding Resolution was launched in April 2008, Senate Resolution 511.

Just as I don’t expect our DOJ to indict anyone; ineligibility has clearly been tacitly approved by both parties, but it doesn’t hurt to understand the law. Don’t be surprised by the nonsense about the 14th Amendment being confidently preached by supposed Constitutionalists, or by Larry Tribe’s ridiculous citation of the “Grandfather Clause”. (I doubt the Kamala Harris’ parents were born in 1787, but many of their foot solders won’t see the significance of 1787).

With the weakness and dishonesty of the U.S. Legal system the major media will tell everyone what the “truth” is, but the documents will survive, and some historian will write about the demise of The Constitution in some future, tracking the destruction of our foundation and the “Nature Law” upon which it is based. The oligarchs funding our propaganda machines may not like who will likely control their and their family’s futures.


35 posted on 08/14/2020 3:49:03 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

Someone asked Trump at his news conference yesterday about the claim that Kamala is ineligible. He was unfamiliar with the claim and handled the question pretty well. I think it would be a mistake for him to become an advocate of the idea that she is ineligible—maybe she is as the term “natural born” would have been understood in 1787, but most Americans would assume anyone born on US soil (other than the child of a foreign diplomat) is a natural born citizen. There are so many other things Harris can be attacked for.


38 posted on 08/14/2020 4:39:29 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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