Posted on 07/16/2020 4:57:40 AM PDT by Bladerunner
The End Of A Pandemic?
Cannot thank you enough!
Finally, real f*cking science. About time.
Thank you for the ping. I will give my opinion noting that this is just that. My opinion.
I think people have forgotten what the whole exercise is. When we shut down it was to flatten the curve. So that the health system was not overrun. At that time we were scared of the Italian dilemma. Combined with the inaccurate models from England of 2.2 M American deaths and Armageddon it was thought simply flatten the curve to keep the health care system in tact.
If you look back at worldometer (not a great data site but we can see trends) the curve flattened. Now we are paying the price. As I said and others said, flattening the curve does NOT change the number of cases, but spreads it over time to prevent resource saturation.
Were we successful? Yes. According to the original goal. But now the goalposts have moved. We are to have NO transmission. Impossible. Its a virus like every other pandemic. Nothing you can do to stop it.
We are dealing with a virus with LESS THAN A 0.2% mortality rate. In retrospect Italy was a disaster exactly because they are the most aged population on the planet. With a mortality of 12-20% in the elderly infirmed we know there were no surprises.
99.8% of people recover with no issues the vast majority of whom have no idea they even had this virus that is a cousin of the common cold. But cue the Fearpers with their dishonest mathematical analysis cloaked in alleged expertise. The Fearpers who seem to get hooked into every promise of a cure with doctors more interested in promoting their YouTube site and cashing in instead of practicing medicine. And then the real head scratcher the people who want it both ways. Those that demand no spread and yet rail irrationally against a vaccine stating there is some nefarious plot afoot.
Complicate all of this with you the HCQ fiasco (excellent treatment with AZI and ZN early on) and probably as a stand alone for prophylaxis where politics intervened and we have sacrificed science and inquiry in armchair expertise.
And God knows everyone is an expert on the internet and can spew garbage without back up. And then attack ad hominem those who far contradict them. The list is obvious. Science can be fast tracked in the hands of experts. People forgot the Manhattan project. We have made unbelievable advances in science when the occasions demanded it. But today? We are afraid. We are afraid to say we are the best. We can do this. Operation warp speed is the current Manhattan project and President Trump is correct in his approach
We are seeing the isolation of humans. Evil is triumphing. We are forcing people to have the telescreen as their only interaction. Tell me this isnt Orwellian. The real question is will we stand for what we are and should be , or will we be docile like sheep in front of their shearers. I am not sure that this is the time. But I have read the book. Its a Good book. I know how it ends. Whatever the timing may be.
They are not full of Covid patients because it is thev primary cause.
They are full to staffed capacity.
They are not full to physical capacity
Hospitals furloughed a good number of employees when they reduced “elective” procedures
Now those people are back for their elective procedure and the there is a backlog of them waiting, which current staffingblevele are going to make it difficult to catch up
You are so right.
smay be full now because other things that were put off because of covid are being treated.
There is more to being sick than just the stoopid damn covid.
Thank you so much for the reply. I love your clear thinking and level headedness. We need more good doctors like yourself getting the good news and the Good News out there to the world.
Thank you for your kind words.
3 people that were killed in the Vietnam war.
4 people that died in traffic accidents.
5 people that were murdered (including a policeman).
2 people that committed suicide.
0 people that have died from Covid-19.
We have crippled our country because?
I wish he’d run his numbers off today’s stats. The numbers are way different than they were three weeks ago when he wrote this ...
BTTT!
No its in Jacksonville. Maybe not all Covid but many more than theyve had.
Many more than before. Ok, I get that, thank you! I think we will see an increase of sorts in the hospitals. I do wonder if they are coming in because they had CoVid and are admitted with CoVid as a primary condition, or are the patients coming for something else, and then finding out they are CoVid positive?
Im interested in your close relatives perspective, as I have family in Gainesville, and truthfully, over most of central and north central Florida. Many of them ask me my perspective because I have a biology background vs business degree like most of them. I try to give them factual information as best as I can, but Ive been away from my field for many years, and they are inundated with what they see and hear on their TVs. They do not have time to search the internet for information, so they use as a source only the mainstream media outlets, which I dont trust as far as I can spit a watermelon seed. Several are terrified, and one is trying her best to maintain a calm composure. So Im always on the lookout for updated local information as close to a source as I can get. Is your relative a doctor, nurse, or other specialist? Does your relative work in the ICU? Perhaps your relative is someone on the business end of things at the hospital. Knowing what their role at the hospital is helps me understand their perspective.
My relative is a PA. Most Covid patients seen are obese or have other issues.
Thank you, thats helpful. I still dont understand if CoVid is their primary reason for being in the hospital, and are these patients in ICU?
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