You can buy a dummy collar that is a duplicate of the real thing except for the electronics.
Put that on him when the shock collar is charging.
If he is smart enough to tell which is which, put both on him at the same time for a month or so.
If he still outsmarts you, get two shock collars.
Most shock collar instructions I have read advise the new purchaser to use the lowest intensity to which the dog will react.
That is fine if you are teaching the dog to obey a command, such as getting him to c load in your car when you are ready to go home from a walk or hunting.
But when a dog is really excited, such as when fighting or chasing cars, he does not feel pain or any other stimulus the same as when he is calm.
When training not to bite, fight or chase you need to run the collar on the highest number and whack him immediately.
Also do not give any voice commands. You are not training him to listen yo your voice....you are training him to believe that the vehicle is punishing him.
And allowing a dog to run loose unsupervised, unless he is a hunting dog and you are in the field, is bad for the dog and shows a complete lack of understanding of animal management.
Yep, that’s a good idea. I have a shock collar that works like a charm, even at the 50% level. I’ve used it to train him off a couple of vehicles and it worked perfect. Then, after a period of time passes, he goes back to the habit. He definitely knows when the collar is on not to try it.
Hell, I’ve shocked the shit out of him through the kitchen window a few times when he did it. Stopped him cold.
I’m going to have him wear the collar 24/7 now. I even have two receivers but I don’t have a spare collar, yet.
Looks like my boy is gonna have to get on the pain train. Hell, I might even start enjoying it...
He is totally trained with the collar on. I can leave it on him 24x7 with its power off, so I don’t need a dummy. I don’t like him having to feel those 2 long metal probes on his neck all the time.
As to your dog management statement - that’s your opinion - and probably applies to most dogs. Collies are unique in that they are naturally home-bodies, and do not wander. We own 2 houses on 15 acres in about 500 acres of heavy forest, and have almost no neighbors, so I personally don’t think your statement applies to us and our collie.
He rarely roams more than 200’ from our house. And then it’s next door to our rental house next door because our tenants love him so much.