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To: Widget Jr

1. You have no idea what they really think of Fauci. They are trying to be as polite as possible and not make needless enemies. From their perspective it makes perfect sense.

I made specific factual claims about Fauci’s blundering. If you think any of it isn’t, let me know. It’s not impossible I made a mistake and I’ll certainly consider any objections. But nothing you said had anything to do with any of the factual claims I made. Maybe those doctors were trying to be polite for good reasons. Maybe I was trying to be impolite for good reasons. Who cares. If the facts I gave are correct, Fauci deserves a lot of blame.

Finally, there are things about Fauci I didn’t mention. Google “New England Journal of Medicine Fauci.” First or near first entry should be a March 26 article Fauci co-wrote with a few other people. It’s not long but you don’t even need to read the whole thing. Do a search for “.01%”. Look at the sentence it appears in. It will say that the “clinical consequences” of COVID-19 look like they will be about the same as a severe flu with a death rate of around .01%, which is exactly the flu’s rate.

That article appeared March 26. A reporter — I think it was Sharyl Attkisson but I’d have to check — asked the NEJM about that article since, the very next day on the 27, Fauci said we needed to be locked down til a vaccine was developed . That would take a couple of years at least, and Attkisson or whoever it was wondered why Fauci was saying C-19 was like a severe flu to his peers on one day and telling the public we needn’t to be locked down for two more years the next.

The NEJM told her the article was submitted a couple weeks before it was published. So it was submitted around Mar 12. That’s 4 days before all this lockdown B.S. started. 4 days before it started Fauci had already completed an article in which he told his peers C-19 would likely be like a severe seasonal flu.

How do you explain that?

That’s not the only deceitful thing Fauci has done. But I don’t have time to go into the rest of it at the moment. He’s known all along this virus wasn’t what he was making it out to be.

Oh, and one more thing. We know the California ER doctor was only being polite and wouldn’t have really done any of these measures since he explicitly made it a point to criticize the idea of quarantining healthy people. As I mentioned in the article, there is absolutely no reason to think any of this is doing anything. For one thing the studies only concern the flue and this isn’t the flu. For another, they weren’t even conclusive about the flu. There’s a lot that could be said about why this strategy is nonsense. Fauci isn’t dumb enough not to know. And the CA ER doctor clearly knows and was only being polite. There’s no way he would have done this insane nonsense since he knows there’s no reason to think it works.


65 posted on 04/27/2020 6:16:07 AM PDT by Michal T
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To: Michal T
1. When you post your own blog on another site you invite. No one owes you any audience or agreement.

2. "You have no idea what they really think of Fauci"

I never said I did.
I showed where they explained where they said with the information available at the time, they would have done the same as Dr. Fauci.
That means, THEY SAID THEY WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME AS DR. FAUCI IN THIS CASE.
What they actually said, is much different than the tone implied in the article.

"I made specific factual claims about Fauci’s blundering."

I have no responsibility to respond to all your foul mouthed accusations, which if you posted in full here would have likely been pulled.

3. "How do you explain that?"

Nice change of subject there. The Medical community is not up in arms about that NEJM article. There are reasons for that, such as they are doctors who understand medicine. The decision to lock down/shelter in place and social distancing was based on how China and Italy and how the countries first affected were handling Covid-19, when the death rate was high. It was not based on models or WHO recommendations at all, despite what some want to believe.

When a new disease pops up all over the planet and people start dying rapidly, governments get scared, deal with it, then calm down and take a look at it when it seems safe enough. We are approaching safe enough now. It real life, institutions, decisions, and governments do not change at the speed of the latest news on the Internet.

Is Dr Fauci responsible for the decisions of 180 governments? All those doctors, leaders, public health administrators aren't making their own decisions based on their own judgment? To ignore what other countries are doing independently of the U.S. is willful ignorance and attempting to manufacture paranoia.

82 posted on 04/27/2020 4:56:16 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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