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The scientist whose doomsday pandemic model predicted Armageddon just walked back the Apocalyptic predictions
The Federalist ^ | 3/25/20 | Madeline Osborn

Posted on 03/26/2020 2:55:12 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

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To: Impala64ssa

Neil Ferguson works at UK-based Imperial College under “J-IDEA” sponsored by https://www.alj.com/en/about/story/ which may have its own agenda. The “J” stands for Abdul Latif Jameel.
Ferguson is the Director of J-IDEA. ://www.alj.com/en/news/rapid-response-research-centre-to-predict-and-prevent-global-health-crises/
YMMV


21 posted on 03/26/2020 4:47:58 PM PDT by JungleGoat77
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Just remember this entire. Thing this virus crap. M

Strange as it is - it’s only been going on about 10 or 11 days

and is only going to continue for a few more

and then the history books are going to start getting written about it

and the entire dynamic of this presidential race has changed

and the ability for liberal idiots in this country to see that this president is a great leader is cemented


22 posted on 03/26/2020 4:50:00 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Impala64ssa
A better picture of Neil Ferguson:
23 posted on 03/26/2020 5:24:44 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: TexasFreeper2009
they will never admit they were wrong, they will just say the lock down stopped it.


Can't they just blame it on the autocorrect? Works for me.
24 posted on 03/26/2020 5:28:29 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Chicory
It’s the the same model that predicts the world will come to an end if don’t go green!
25 posted on 03/26/2020 5:33:41 PM PDT by Chgogal (Wuhan Virus, Chinese Virus, Kung Fu Virus - Wuhan Chinese Kung Fu Virus aka CCP virus.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Still waiting for MSM to report this.

Waiting, waiting, waiting.....


26 posted on 03/26/2020 5:39:47 PM PDT by Chgogal (Wuhan Virus, Chinese Virus, Kung Fu Virus - Wuhan Chinese Kung Fu Virus aka CCP virus.)
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To: Chicory
I have to wonder if it was a computer model...

It is.

Most of these predictions are made by a SEIR epidemiology model. It's a differential equation that has many about 4 or 5 parameters that are difficult to measure. Because it's exponential small overestimates in the basic parameters can have huge consequences.

The worst offender is the COVID Act Now site which displays dire graphs but provides no information as to how they were obtained. Rumor has it they used information from the guy at Imperial College.

One good site is the University of Pennsylvania CHIME model. It's purpose is to try to help hospitals plan their predicted census and ICU census based on the doubling rate of cases they are seeing in real time.

You can play with it yourself. The problem with the model though is that it is using a fixed R0 of 2.6(referred to as R-naught which is loosely considered the birth number of new infections). While that is considered the current value for this virus it is still an estimate. No one really knows what the value of the number really is.

The model as presented at the site does not allow you to change the value of R0. So if you play with it, you will find that the exponential underpinnings of the model and its use of a fixed value of R0 mean that the hospital census quickly gets high. This inspite of changing the other parameters to try to effect a reduction.

27 posted on 03/26/2020 5:58:32 PM PDT by stig
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To: stig; orlop9

Thanks!

Stig, I got what you said. I worked on the Club of Rome programs when I was in college as a class project, and they had a similar problem

Which is why I have never trusted computer models.


28 posted on 03/26/2020 8:09:09 PM PDT by Chicory
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To: Pontiac

Later


29 posted on 03/26/2020 8:17:11 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
they will never admit they were wrong,
The Jets will win a Super Bowl, or longer than that hell will freeze over before that happens.
30 posted on 03/26/2020 10:57:27 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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To: gibsonguy
Having an idiot spout crap is one thing - having a mass of people swallowing the crap w/o question is a whole other deal.

But it did help us see how many on FR would rather live in slavery than risk their lives for FReedom - seems like some of them might have been out there in the '50s and '60s chanting "Better Red than Dead" as we massed resources during the Cold War...

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” ― William Pitt the Younger

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” Ben Franklin

31 posted on 03/27/2020 3:11:46 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Impala64ssa

This virus may not be as bad as Ferguson says we it would be thoroughly moronic not to take it seriously. It is deadly enough to change your habits and take precautions to prevent infection.


32 posted on 03/27/2020 7:12:54 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: TexasFreeper2009

South Korea didn’t lock everyone down, and they’re doing fine. Hand-washing, smart testing, and commonsense isolation of the vulnerable. Nothing new.


33 posted on 03/27/2020 1:44:43 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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