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It takes a while for the infected to start dying. Italy's at 9% dead to infected. That's a ramp from 3% earlier. We might be spared some of Italy's problems because Turkey aside, we have the most ICU beds per capita of any country in the world:
Hospital beds by country
Rank Country/territory Continent Hospital beds per 1000 people Change from previous year, average Occupancy (%)[13] ICU-CCB beds
/100,000 inhabitants
Ventilators
2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Actual Proportional (%)
31  Turkey Europe 2.65 2.68 2.68 2.75 2.81 0.04 1.45 68.0 46[18][19] Unknown
32  United States North America 2.89 2.83 2.80 2.77   −0.04 −1.42 64.0 34.7[20] 177,000[21]
4  Germany Europe 8.28 8.23 8.13 8.06 8.00 −0.07 −0.86 79.8 29.2[16] 25,000[17]
16  Luxembourg Europe 5.17 5.05 4.93 4.81 4.66 −0.13 −2.63 70.7 24.8[16] Unknown
5  Austria Europe 7.64 7.58 7.54 7.42 7.37 −0.07 −0.90 73.8 21.8[16] Unknown
12  Belgium Europe 5.93 5.85 5.83 5.76 5.76 −0.04 −0.73 81.8 15.9[16] Unknown
9  Lithuania Europe 7.28 7.22 6.97 6.69 6.56 −0.18 −2.65 73.2 15.5[16] Unknown
15  Estonia Europe 5.01 5.01 4.96 4.76 4.69 −0.08 −1.68 70.4 14.6[16] Unknown
6  Hungary Europe 7.04 6.98 6.99 7.00 7.02 −0.01 −0.07 65.5 13.8[16] Unknown
36  Canada North America 2.71 2.67 2.61 2.58 2.52 −0.05 −1.84 91.6 13.5[22] Unknown
26  Italy Europe 3.31 3.21 3.20 3.17 3.18 −0.03 −1.01 78.9 12.5[16] Unknown
7  Czech Republic Europe 6.7 6.68 6.67 6.66 6.63 −0.02 −0.26 70.1 11.6[16] Unknown
10  France Europe 6.28 6.20 6.13 6.06 5.98 −0.08 −1.23 75.6 11.6[16] Unknown
17   Switzerland Europe 4.68 4.58 4.58 4.55 4.53 −0.04 −0.82 82.0 11.0[16] Unknown
2  South Korea Asia 10.92 11.59 11.61 11.98 12.27 0.34 2.85   10.6[14] Unknown
13  Latvia Europe 5.8 5.66 5.69 5.72 5.57 −0.06 −1.03 71.1 9.7[16] Unknown
29  Spain Europe 2.96 2.97 2.98 2.97 2.97 0.00 0.08 75.3 9.7[16] Unknown
11  Slovakia Europe 5.8 5.79 5.75 5.78 5.82 0.01 0.08 67.8 9.2[16] Unknown
27  Iceland Europe 3.22 3.16 3.12 3.13 3.06 −0.04 −1.29   9.1[16] Unknown
3  Russia Europe 9.07 8.81 8.35 8.16 8.05 −0.26 −3.04   8.3[15] Unknown
22  Norway Europe 3.86 3.84 3.76 3.68 3.60 −0.07 −1.76 80.7 8[16] Unknown
1  Japan Asia 13.3 13.21 13.17 13.11 13.05 −0.06 −0.48 75.5 7.3[14] Unknown
14  Hong Kong Asia 5.4 5.4 5.4     0.00 0.00   7.1[14] Unknown
8  Poland Europe 6.61 6.63 6.63 6.64 6.62 0.00 0.04   6.9[16] Unknown
34  Denmark Europe 3.07 2.69 2.53 2.60 2.61 −0.12 −4.34   6.7[16] Unknown
35  United Kingdom (more) Europe 2.76 2.73 2.61 2.57 2.54 −0.05 −2.11 84.3 6.6[16] Unknown
30  Ireland Europe 2.56 2.57 2.92 2.97 2.96 0.10 3.43 94.9 6.5[16] Unknown
18  Slovenia Europe 4.55 4.54 4.51 4.49 4.50 −0.01 −0.28 69.5 6.4[16] Unknown
24  Netherlands Europe 4.18   3.52 3.44 3.32 0.00 0.00 65.4 6.4[16] Unknown
25  Finland Europe 4.87 4.53 4.35 3.97 3.28 −0.40 −10.56   6.1[16] Unknown
20  Greece Europe 4.24 4.24 4.25 4.20 4.21 −0.01 −0.18 61.6 6[16] Unknown
37  Sweden Europe 2.59 2.54 2.44 2.34 2.22 −0.09 −3.94   5.8[16] Unknown
23  Portugal Europe 3.39 3.32 3.37 3.39 3.39 0.00 −0.01 66.8 4.2[16] Unknown
19  China Asia 3.31 3.57 3.82 4.05 4.34 0.26 6.55   3.6[14] Unknown
40  Mexico North America 1.44 1.43 1.39 1.39 1.38 −0.02 −1.08 74.0  1.2[23][24] Unknown
21  Australia Oceania 3.74 3.79 3.82 3.84   0.03 0.88     Unknown
28  Israel Asia 3.09 3.08 3.03 2.99 3.02 −0.02 −0.58 93.3   Unknown
33  New Zealand Oceania 2.78 2.75 2.71 2.73 2.71 −0.02 −0.64     Unknown
38  Chile South America 2.16 2.11 2.14 2.12 2.11 −0.01 −0.60 79.1   Unknown
39  Colombia South America 1.54 1.59 1.61 1.68 1.70 0.04 2.43     Unknown

16 posted on 03/23/2020 5:55:00 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

What we have right now are stats. That is reason, rationality. Hope. Better than going by the sky WILL fall fall.

Might it fall? It might, and a meteorite might wipe us out.

What we can go by is what we have, stats, and to have more testing, wash hands, eat well, drink lots of liquids and on and on.


34 posted on 03/23/2020 6:04:54 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clown World Then You Have Spent Too Much Time At The Circus)
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To: Zhang Fei

Based on professional experience, I can assure you that the occupancy rate at 60%’ish is a joke. Any hospital that was 35% empty would be out of business.

All of the amateur statisticians pulling numbers off of Wikipedia are not doing anyone, any service.

People are so interested in counting raindrops, they cannot perceive how hard it’s raining, and whether the room needs repair.

But, it’s just the flu.


62 posted on 03/23/2020 6:23:10 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Zhang Fei
We might be spared some of Italy's problems because Turkey aside, we have the most ICU beds per capita of any country in the world:

That may be true but it's nowhere near the number of icu beds we need if let this thing rip through the population. This is the biggest fear of government and what the containment strategy is built around.

128 posted on 03/23/2020 7:02:52 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Zhang Fei

Ventilators are the new Body Bags


142 posted on 03/23/2020 7:19:42 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Zhang Fei
Italy's at 9% dead to infected. That's a ramp from 3% earlier.

Are those the real or cooked numbers from Italy?

232 posted on 03/23/2020 12:40:26 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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