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POST RAT DEBATE DISCUSSION: Will the DNC actually allow Comrade Bernie to get the Democrat Nomination?

Posted on 02/26/2020 4:24:45 AM PST by bryan999

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To: PghBaldy
"Coronavirus and/or economic downturn. The virus is the very definition of a “Black Swan” event."

I agree. This Virus fear is being whipped into a frenzy to cost people money and it has tremendously. People have now lost a LOT OF MONEY and that will have an effect one way or another. I'm not saying people will vote for Bernie but they may lose some enthusiasm.

21 posted on 02/26/2020 5:12:27 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Not so fast (I am assuming you are referring to Bloomberg and not Steyer).

Would Bloomberg take on this role? Why would he? Has he ever displayed a willingness to sacrifice of himself for the sake of others? Has he ever displayed integrity? No. He is a deeply selfish man. He is running for the nomination because he is so deluded that he actually thinks he can win. But is he *so* deluded that he would think he could steal/buy the nomination and somehow get even within 10 points of Trump? I don’t think anyone could be that deluded. He would *have* to know that he was merely a sacrificial lamb at that point (bearing in mind, especially, how battered he is being just in the last week or two).

But even if he did accept, what is in it for the DNC? Have a billionaire buy the nomination, and the DNC can kiss goodbye forever 20-30% of their current base (hello, Green party). What is more, the party will sacrifice forever their claim to “the Republicans are for the rich, the Democrats for the working class.” Goodbye African-American turnout (if not actual votes). Goodbye the remaining blue collar Democrats (still a sizable group). Goodbye young social justice warriors.

No. The answer is not easy. The only thing worse for the Democrats than a Sanders nomination would be a Bloomberg nomination.


22 posted on 02/26/2020 5:12:27 AM PST by Excubiae
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To: Caipirabob
I think Bernie is a true threat.

Bernie Sanders would get virtually no Republican votes, would lose the independent vote handily, and would have terrible turnout problems within the Democrat party. Meanwhile, Republican turnout is going to be shattering records.

Bernie Sanders is a mortal threat to the viability of the Democrat party. He poses no threat to the country. He would lose to Trump, and he would lose badly.
23 posted on 02/26/2020 5:16:08 AM PST by Excubiae
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To: bryan999
WHAT

AMERICAN FLAG ?



24 posted on 02/26/2020 5:21:54 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true. I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: bryan999

My sense of this is that if they back Sanders they lose the election really take a beating on the down ballot races. If they back Bloomberg they lose the presidential race but retain as much of the state and local races as possible.

“Sauve qui peut”


25 posted on 02/26/2020 5:25:57 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Excubiae

:: He is running for the nomination because he is so deluded that he actually thinks he can win. ::

You are correct in that Bloomy is selfish but his end game is likely NOT JUST the nomination if he can get it. He’d settle for CEO of the DNC, which would make him CEO of America if the Dem party [keeps the House], [regains the Senate], [wins the Presidency].

He’s a business man and understands mergers and acquisitions.
Napoleonic complex with a White Knight attitude.
Steyer hasn’t the balls to pull-off (pun intended) something THAT big.


26 posted on 02/26/2020 5:27:31 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Scatology is serendipitous.)
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To: bryan999

A 20 day old dead fish rotting in the Sicilian sun or Mike Bloomberg. Who has more charisma?


27 posted on 02/26/2020 5:27:34 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue
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To: bryan999

LOL

new NPR poll Just out

CA

Sanders 36%
Warren . 18%
Biden 10%

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/


28 posted on 02/26/2020 5:29:34 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: bryan999

I don’t want that commie on the ballot. Too risky. If he were to win, America will collapse.


29 posted on 02/26/2020 5:29:42 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: EvilCapitalist

Best scenario for the collapse of the Democratic Socialist Party is Bernie gets 40-45%, and everyone else is less than 20% , all the other candidates give their delegates to someone who is a distant 2nd or 3rd, and that one gets a plurality and the nomination. The result could be a candidate that receives less than 20% of votes nationally gets the nomination. AKA John McCain, and has no nationwide appeal in the general in November.


30 posted on 02/26/2020 5:30:03 AM PST by Ponyexpress9790
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To: Caipirabob

“They’ve been taught that this crap is awesome and that capitalism is the blame for all their woes.”

This is the part I find bothersome that this bunch has “woes”. Having been given them free stuff most of their lives, never made to mind or get a good paying job and being brainwashed has led to their feelings of being screwed by capitalism. Fact is, they are actually quite entitled but too stupid to know it.

I’ve been in the desert of Eritrea and watched people so poor all they own is their camel and whatever it can carry. As a kid real poor people were skinny, never had a TV, a car and wore worn out clothes. I’ve been in a war zone watching people get shot and blown up. Now fast forward to modern times and think Venezuela. These are examples of real poor people, people that are being screwed.

What these young mindless wonders will be doing by voting in a die hard commie is voting for the end of their own damn privileged life! Give a decade or so of extreme socialism and we will be Venezuela.

Thank God for the 2A!!!!!!!!!!!


31 posted on 02/26/2020 5:31:28 AM PST by redfreedom
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To: bryan999

That may be a foolish conclusion. Young voters and illegals could well out number over confident republican voters who don’t bother to show up.


32 posted on 02/26/2020 5:34:10 AM PST by McGavin999 (Queen Fancy Nancy Of North Poopistan)
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To: EvilCapitalist

That would winning the battle but losing the war. Even Bernie knows a Sanders/Warren ticket has 0 chance in the General


33 posted on 02/26/2020 5:38:56 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

If he tries, and the DNC allows it, he and the DNC are equally self-deluded. If a billionaire (especially one as universally disliked as himself), were to buy the nomination, not only would he get trounced in the general election, not only would would lose the house, but they would be facing years of hemorrhaging voters. Basically, he would have bought the Titanic 5 minutes after it struck the iceberg.

I would love nothing more than for him to do so. The Democrat party (which, for decades, has not been an ideologically united party, but rather a loose coalition of individual fiefdoms that despise and distrust each other tremendously), would split apart. No amount of hatred for Trump could keep it together.

As I said — I would love for the DNC to be so utterly tone deaf and delusional to try such a thing.


34 posted on 02/26/2020 5:42:54 AM PST by Excubiae
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To: bryan999

at this point, with the iowa caucus debacle the dems cannot show they are competent at anything.


35 posted on 02/26/2020 5:47:03 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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To: bryan999

Bernie sued DWS and the DNC last time when the DNC politically sodomized Bernie in the primaries. The court said the DNC can anoint anyone they want in any method they want. Bend over Bernie.


36 posted on 02/26/2020 5:51:27 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: EvilCapitalist

Correct. The old bait and switch is going to be used in the only “accepted commies need apply dem party.” He is good for fodder but will not now or ever be the official party candidate IMO.


37 posted on 02/26/2020 5:51:29 AM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Caipirabob

Bulls-eye my friend.

You nailed it.

Bernie might not be able to beat Trump - but in 2024, beware! He just might beat a weaker Repub.............the millions of dumbed-down, brainwashed graduates of our government schools increase every year non-stop - and their rule is almost inevitable - the path is set in concrete.......

Apart from divine intervention.......


38 posted on 02/26/2020 6:00:22 AM PST by Arlis
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To: bryan999

One thing to remember is that neither republicans/conservatives or democrats/progressives/liberals elect the president. The 6% or 7% of people who have no core values elect the president. These people could go into the voting booth with a choice between the most extreme democrat and the most rational republican and not be able to decide who to vote for. Trump was a “black swan”. Any other candidate and Hillary is the president. My point is, don’t take anything for granted.


39 posted on 02/26/2020 6:02:02 AM PST by suthener
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To: Caipirabob

I think Bernie is a true threat. Not a joke at all. Decades of indoctrinated younger generations will flock to vote for a true commie. What the hell do they know? They’ve been taught that this crap is awesome and tha5 capitalism is the blame for all their woes.

This combined with unfettered voter fraud, illegal aliens voting and worse could put berntard in the White House.

Think the anti Trumpers wouldn’t work to make this happen? Pfff...

We are not dealing with a brain trust here. The democrat party was Bernie before Bernie ever had a chance.
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I’m afraid of exactly what you say here. These young kids think they deserve EVERYTHING at the expense of evil rich people. The DemoRATS have been planting the seed against hard work, and Capitalism for decades. Everything is blamed on racism, at EVERY turn, and there is no justice except Libtard justice.
USA is in a deep mess with the youth-—do not underestimate how many braindead young people there are1
Scary to think that this idiot, Berntard has gotten this far—


40 posted on 02/26/2020 6:10:44 AM PST by bantam
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