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So Iran is admitting they shot it down??


6 posted on 01/08/2020 5:15:25 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

“So Iran is admitting they shot it down??”

That’s what I was wondering. It does sound like it.


24 posted on 01/08/2020 5:37:22 PM PST by Ken H
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Just some armchair quarterbacking.

Perhaps our intel knows a whole lot of the picture regarding the deep state, globalist agendas, and how black ops infiltrated the entire area since the Russian went into Afghanistan and the US wanted to create a Green Line.

It worked for a while using black ops and the CIA, but when we pulled out, it left a lot of extremist Muslims out of the picture.

They had already formed Bn to Regtl sized units, but without financial backing. Over the decades portions of them are now in cahoots with the globalists to attempt world domination.

National leaders, regardless their politics, face the same threat from these groups, who favor asymmetric warfare with Bn to Regt sized operational backbone.

Each country or region has them.

Iran has them and had been managing them by allowing them to coordinate terrorism internationally in their region.

Clinton and Obama cartels now role in and try to link up and support them as their armed assets in a multi-bag of tricks.

Iran hates the CIA. US hates the terrorists.

Iran also had lots of moderates who really hate the terrorists and folks like Soleimeni, but lack staying power to take him out.

Burisma and Ukraine smacks of CIA/Black Ops controllers/hub of dens of thieves.

Maybe the intel powers that be, molded a COA where US takes out Soleimeni, Iran politically protests internally amongst the terrorist controlling crowd, Iranian politicians play along, with behind the scenes intel between Trump and Iran leaders to launch the attacks on air bases known to support CIA ops, and in return, black hat spooks on the plane leaving Iran back to Ukraine are given as a target to Iran.

Idea was to generate hysteria and fear amongst the locals and the world. Black hats leave Iran quickly, and the plane is downed, either by “SpaceForce” or by the trigger happy Iranian Air Defense.

Plane made it to around 7950 ft AGL before exploding. Aircraft controllers report they lost radio contact 2 minutes into the flight after it left the ground. Typical ascent rate of about 1800fpm below first 10,000 ft would take a little over 4.5 min. Max ascent say for a souped up 747 is about 3000-4000fpm.
IMHO, either something caused the radios to malfunction 1-3 minutes before being hit by a missile, or it ceased when it was hit.

If the later, then they were flying as fast as possible, which might not be the best appearance if anticipating combatant aircraft in the area. Or, perhaps they didn’t have clearance and were trying to escape Iran and Air Defense directed them to shoot it down.

Too much conjecture, but lots of food for thought.

After today and our withholding a counter-strike, it might be the case that both sides via backdoor coordination, both operated against the deep state, allowing both nations to survive without an escalating war.

IMHO, this is consistent with the same MO with N Korea.

I say, Go Trump!


56 posted on 01/08/2020 8:34:18 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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Just holding onto the Black Box is an indication of guilt....probably want to try to gauge how President Trump would take it - probably some idiot knee-jerked with fear (or wanted to take things out of leaderships hands) and nothing officially sanctioned (accident or sabotage from within).


72 posted on 01/09/2020 4:04:38 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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