The truth is the South violently seceded from the North and opened fire on Ft Sumter in Charleston Harbor as Lincoln was attempting to resupply the garrison there. This is what you won’t admit. And for someone who routinely is trounced here with your revisionist and factually incorrect history of the events and causes of The Civil War anyone with any brains or dignity would cease making an ass out of themselves but you seem to have a positive talent for not doing so.
Incorrect. They peacefully seceded from the North, but the North didn't accept it, and so they sent a war fleet to force South Carolina to submit to Federal taxation from Washington DC.
and opened fire on Ft Sumter in Charleston Harbor
Because they learned a war fleet was coming to attack them, and the fort had become a threat to them. Anderson refused to maintain a cease fire against them, and so they were left with no choice but to neutralize the threat his control of that fort represented to their own forces.
as Lincoln was attempting to resupply the garrison there.
Well firstly, they were illegally occupying the fort, and secondly, Warships with extra troops and munitions does not constitute a "resupply" and most especially not when the ships orders include the instruction to use all of their available force to place munitions and men into the fort.
This is what you won’t admit.
I won't admit it because it's bullsh*t. Lincoln started that war, and he did so on purpose. His entire cabinet told him that sending those warships would cause a war, and that is exactly what happened. Had he done nothing, there would have been no war.
You would have us believe, firstly, that there is no right to independence, even though our own founding document is based solely on the assertion that there is. You have *NO EVIDENCE* (except a 40 year later letter from Madison) to prove Independence was illegal, and I have not only the founding document which explicitly says so, but the statements of three states ratifying the Constitution explicitly saying so, and two more beside those asserting the same thing in 1814.
Abraham Lincoln himself even says so twice in public statements that a right to independence is a natural and sacred right. He says this once in 1848, and again in 1852, yet his position flips 180 degrees by 1860.
And for someone who routinely is trounced ...
Hardly. You don't even put up a fight. You just repeat yourself again and again.
Post evidence that the US Constitution made Independence illegal. I can post several examples of evidence which demonstrates the very opposite.
The only evidence I know for your side is that letter from James Madison written in 1833, and which contradicts what Madison said as a member of Virginia's ratification committee back in 1788.
You got anything to prove your case other than that letter from Madison? Letters from people who weren't actually there in 1787 don't count, so don't be dragging out Justice Story, or other subsequent people who have no first hand knowledge of the founders intent.
Founders and ratifiers only. All else is just crap opinion.
Frustrating, isn’t it? Dealing with an irrational fanatic who views the world as he would like it to be, not as it is. Fortunately there are few of them (although they tend to compensate with more volume, LOL).