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To: DiogenesLamp
They could have won had Lincoln been as sane as "Mad King George". Nobody expected the North to expend such blood and treasure to subjugate them.

No, they would not have won at all. The bottom line is that if Lincoln, or McClellan (who opposed him in the 1864 election) had not continued the war, the business interests in the North would have found somebody pliable enough to continue the war. Have to say that i'm very surprised that your cynicism concerning Northern monied interests didn't let you see that.

After all, it was not as if they or the Southern aristocracy were doing the actual fighting and dying (with very few exceptions on both sides). The war was going to continue to a conclusion no matter who was in the White House or the Gray House in Richmond.

Rich man's war, poor man's fight. Same as it ever was

498 posted on 06/25/2018 4:57:45 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
No, they would not have won at all. The bottom line is that if Lincoln, or McClellan (who opposed him in the 1864 election) had not continued the war, the business interests in the North would have found somebody pliable enough to continue the war. Have to say that i'm very surprised that your cynicism concerning Northern monied interests didn't let you see that.

That is a point that I hadn't really considered. It is possible that that would have happened, but it occurs to me that Lincoln might have been their pinnacle of control. At this point, the "Deep State"/Crony Capitalist/Establishment was just getting it's footing, and it may not have yet gotten so confident that it could continue the war without Lincoln.

But you have a valid point for further consideration. Yes, they would have wanted to continue the war by any means, because to fail at it would relegate their fortunes to evaporate.

Rich man's war, poor man's fight. Same as it ever was

And that is probably the most apt description of it.

534 posted on 06/26/2018 7:47:58 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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