Posted on 10/05/2017 7:38:40 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
LVMPD audio: ‘There are at least two shooters with fully-automatic weapons’ Posted on October 5, 2017 by Shepard Ambellas Leaked LVMPD audio reveals how the mainstream media is hiding crucial details about last Sunday’s shooting at the Route 91 music festival in Las Vegas
(INTELLIHUB) — Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department audio captured during last Sunday’s active shooting at Mandalay Bayresort and casino reveals how officers confirmed that there were at least two shooters firing down onto the crowd of concertgoers attending the Route 91 music festival.
After a series of fully-automatic gunfire popped off and people started getting struck by flying rounds a team of law enforcement officers and another ‘element’ stormed the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay it was feared that there was an additional shooter on the 29th floor.
“We have a four-man team up here and we have another element moving to us. We will need the 29th floor,” one officer said. “It sounds like it’s confirmed, there are at least two shooters with fully-automatic weapons.”
Additionally, the audio recordings also reveal that a black Chevy dually pickup truck fled the parking lot during all of the commotions and that an older white male who was wearing fatigues and carrying a black bag was spotted retreating into a white RV by the Tropicana and the Motel 6. Pedestrians said that the man came from the area of the shooting.
Pedestrians said that the man came from the area of the shooting and a team eventually converged on the white RV.
At one point, a police car was commandeered by an unknown suspect while the two elements on the 32nd floor were cleared for 335 Zebra’s approach to the northernmost room. READ MORE Forensic Psychiatrist Suggests Gunman May Have Deliberately Targeted Conservatives
“This is 335 Zebra. I need to know if we have that floor evacuated other than our suspects. We got […] sniper going up,” a voice called out over the radio.
That’s when 720 called in an confirmed he had a 12 man element entering the east side of the Mandalay Bay.
[End Audio]
It’s important to note that their may be a total media blackout and that other hotels may have been targeted.
Keep in mind, the New York Times failed to report the hard details in the conglomerate piece titled “Chaos at a Concert and a Frantic Search at Mandalay Bay.”
#MediaBlackout
I haven’t heard simultaneous gunfire.
Hmmm
Another older white guy
Marilu’s husband? The rabid leftist gun expert
Two shooters or Paddock from two different firing positions in his suite? Initial reports in an emergency are often wrong.
Is it time for the ‘police/witnesses claimed multiple attackers in the midst of the chaos’ thing again? Literally after every mass murder spree we get this.
And he magically shot through windows?
I have listened to numerous videos repeatedly. What I have heard could be explained by echoes, and one guy using 2 different kinds/calibers of weapons while shooting out of two vantage points that each faced (slightly) different directions.
But, if someone told me there was a second shooter at a different location, I would not be surprised at all. There are instances in the audio that, while they could be one person as described above, they could also be two different shooters.
I’m not surprised that, listening to it all happening live, in the fog and chaos of it all, even some LEO might have thought there was more than one shooter.
Two shooters or Paddock from two different firing positions in his suite? Initial reports in an emergency are often wrong.
The windows open 6 inches or so on the lower floors of the hotel.
Re more than one shooter:
Check out this article from a blogger/Congressional candidate:
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/more-than-one-vegas-shooter-the-evidence-builds/
There was only one shooter.
A 62-year old retired accountant turned professional gambler with a casino hostess girlfriend previously married to a Bernie/Maxine nutcase who was losing weight but ate cheeseburgers and bagels with Pepsi and collected weapons, ammo, and chemical explosives and owned 4 houses and two airplanes who turned into Rambo for 10 minutes on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Hotel Sunday night then put a bullet in his mouth.
More video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=129&v=gjR0RSdgGUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLkruVqQLEM
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boy they got a lot of ammo to pick up and match with the weapons, eh?
Las Vegas gunman may have planned escape, had help: Sheriff
http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-gunman-planned-escape-sheriff/story?id=50273390
echo?
Me either.
There should be enough video clips with audio to be able to assemble a complete sound track of the 10 minutes of gunfire and determine if there was ever more than one gun at a time.
A spent brass count would be a good detail to collect.
And he lost ONE MILLION DOLLARS a year and paid for his most recent home purchase of $300k+ with CASH.
How’d he manage that? Video poker winnings.
Sounds legit to me!
Fromt the article above:
“There is NO WAY in hell that this inexperienced guy was able to hit 500+ people, at a down sloping range of approximately 250-350 yards using a make-shift weapon modified to shot automatically. Here are some reasons why and you can check with other experts to verify my points.”
“1. It was dark and no matter how well lit, there are many shadows to hide in.
2. Simple a ‘sear’ (pronounced see-er) modification would have only permitted one entire magazine to shoot all at once with no select fire (being able to start and stop).
3. There are some devices (like AutoGlove and Bump Fire) that can simulate full automatic fire, but they cannot be used accurately or effectively.
4. Even if the shooter was able to somehow obtain a full normal functioning automatic rifle, anyone with military experience can tell you that the rifles are difficult to control when firing more than 3 round bursts – especially a .308 or AK47 type. This is because the rifle will uncontrollably rise if automatic fire is constant.
5. After the first 15 or so seconds, the crowd scattered and took cover.
6. I don’t have a count of how many pieces of empty brass (fired rounds) they have recovered, but knowing how many shots were fired compared to how many people were hit will tell you the hit ratio. If this guy did this in 20 seconds, we needed him desperately in Afghanistan!
7. To fire 500 aimed shoots and swap out magazines would have taken him about 15-20 minutes, and there is no way that each shot would have hit someone – more than likely would have missed.”
“To put in perspective…. Say a guy purchases an expensive bolt action rifle in .308 with a nice expensive scope. Without experience, someone would have to mount the scope for him and do a rough sighting in with a laser. This individual then takes this rifle to a range in broad daylight with no stress and using a bench rest and breathing techniques and all the time in the world and fires at a target 300 yards. It is possible, but doubtful if that person could hit a large refrigerator at that range UNLESS they had LOTS OF PRACTICE and EXPERIENCE. For every 1 minute (1/60th of a degree) of angle change at the rifle, the bullet would vary by 3 inches at 300 yards. For this untrained guy to be wildly shooting with a high heart rate at nighttime? Well, bullets would be going everywhere!”
I fully understand that the estimates of 573 killed and wounded, and the police statement that all the shooting took place in four and half minutes, may be off. These figures may not be precise.
Nevertheless, they are a good and proper starting point. And even allowing for later adjustments, the evidence for multiple shooters and against a lone amateur like Paddock is stunning.
Good points.
Two people could have coordinated it and rotated from window to window.
One of the first things I picked up on was the sound of what I recognized as possibly an M-60 machine gun. Others here agreed with me. That was clarified later by the modifications made on the guns.
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