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To: miss marmelstein
I remember in the show, the script always seemed like it was trying to make Meathead out to be the "enlightened high-minded" counterpoint to Archie's "narrow-minded bigot" character. I guess Archie always calling him "Meathead" was supposed to show what a jerk Archie was and gain sympathy for Reiner's character.

Maybe it played that way with Lear and his elite circle of Hollywood friends. But in middle America and in the working class neighborhoods, we were all cheering Archie on while jeering at the Meathead. I don't think Lear anticipated that - but as another poster pointed out, he cashed his checks anyhow and became a very wealthy man.

85 posted on 09/16/2017 9:50:44 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76; miss marmelstein
I remember in the show, the script always seemed like it was trying to make Meathead out to be the "enlightened high-minded" counterpoint to Archie's "narrow-minded bigot" character. I guess Archie always calling him "Meathead" was supposed to show what a jerk Archie was and gain sympathy for Reiner's character.

Maybe it played that way with Lear and his elite circle of Hollywood friends. But in middle America and in the working class neighborhoods, we were all cheering Archie on while jeering at the Meathead. I don't think Lear anticipated that - but as another poster pointed out, he cashed his checks anyhow and became a very wealthy man.

"All in the Family" was inspired by Johnny Speight's Britcom "Till Death Us Do Part." Archie Bunker was originally known as Alf Garnett, across the pond.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Death_Us_Do_Part

The series became an instant hit because, although a comedy, in the context of its time it did deal with aspects of working-class life comparatively realistically. It addressed racial and political issues at a difficult time in British society. Mitchell imbued the character of Alf Garnett with an earthy charm that served to humanise Alf and make him likable. According to interviews he gave, the fact that some viewers overlooked Alf's views and regarded him as a rough diamond disappointed Speight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KonChsnUO6Y

93 posted on 09/16/2017 12:59:54 PM PDT by thecodont
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