Posted on 08/18/2017 9:10:18 AM PDT by Starman417
First, a thought experiment. What if some anti-abortion activists "peacefully" got together and locked arms to prevent anyone from entering an abortion clinic?
Would it matter who was trying to enter?
Would it be racist?
Would it be the fault of the person trying to enter?
Keep it in mind. Donald Trump made several statements the other day that made the left wing media apoplectic. One of the most media-controverted statements was Trump doubling down on blaming both sides for the violence.
“I think there is blame on both sides,” Trump said during a contentious back-and-forth with reporters in the lobby of his Midtown Manhattan building.And there absolutely is blame on both sides. This is from USA today, describing the experience of a white nationalist as he tried to enter Emancipation Park for the lawful assembly:
But as he entered the intersection just outside Emancipation Park, Heimbach and members of his Traditionalist Workers Party were met by counter protesters who had formed a blockade. A melee ensued, with people being flung to the ground in what was the first in a series of violent episodes that turned a graceful college town into a battleground. Later, when a car plowed into a crowd of people, at least killing one person and injuring 19 others, the casualties were all too real. (emphasis mine)And then there is this from Slate:
It was basically impossible to miss the antifa for the group of us who were on the steps of Emancipation Park in an effort to block the Nazis and alt-righters from entering. Soon after we got to the steps and linked arms, a group of white supremacists—I’m guessing somewhere between 20-45 of them—came up with their shields and batons and bats and shoved through us. We tried not to break the line, but they got through some of us—it was terrifying, to say the least—shoving forcefully with their shields and knocking a few folks over.The "counter protesters" were the antagonists in this clash. They attempted to block the lawful entry of the supremacists into the park. They disrupted the alt-right protest. As I suggested above, was an anti-abortion group to block women from entering an abortion clinic, there would be a rapid police response. In this case, because the group with the law on its side is so hated, none was coming.
Did they know what they were provoking? Yes. From the NY Times:
Did they expect violence?No indeed. They were frequently violent:Yes.
Were all of the counterprotesters nonviolent?
No.
“Since the weekend, witnesses have told us that in fact, both sides were antagonizing for a fight,” NBC’s Tom Costello says. Later, the report shows a clip of Trump’s Tuesday press conference in which he said, “What about the alt-left? What about the fact that they came charging…with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs?” Costello’s narration continues, “In fact, that’s true. Witnesses tell NBC News there were people on both sides who seemed ready for a fight and some counter-protesters were armed with clubs, some with pepper spray.”Both sides employed violence. Both sides.The BBC published a similar look at the violence in Charlottesville and what Trump said about it. BBC reporter Joel Gunter, who was there Saturday, said, “The President said that the violence on Saturday was perpetrated by both sides.” After playing a clip of Trump’s press conference, Gunter continued, “Trump is right. There was violence on both sides. I saw counter-protesters throw bottles, rocks and paint and clash with the white supremacists. Both sides sprayed pepper spray.”
Something else Trump said made them nuts:
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...
The media has been calling to assassinate Trump, and antifa has answered the call. This is why now the media defends antifa above all other “issue-organizations” like LGBT etc.
Trump criticizing antifa has suddenly given antifa a huge legitimacy in the media, one corresponding to their desire to see Trump assasssinated because Obama looks so bad next to him.
yes most people with working internet can see tons of videos of these thugs in action attacking people. they were at teh inauguration attacking people. Yet we’re sold a bunch of BS in the media that they’re just good guys stopping Nazis.
Yea..sure.
As usual, the left over plays it hand.
All of the counterprotestors were sweet gentle angels who were so dedicated to wholesome sports that they brought baseball bats with them.
he never mentioned them name
You know this is true
Antifa and BLM have been responsible for prior violence
The Right group had the permit, the others had no permits
The cops were told to mix the groups
Susan Bro said she refuses to speak to Mr Trump after hearing him equate demonstrators & Antifa
If your cause is Just, why wear a Mask?
Last I checked, Free Speech is a Right in this Country. No need to hide your Identity like you are living in a Third World Dictatorship where you can be roused from your bed by the Secret Police...
Nothing new: http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/25/former-college-prof-arrested-for-antifa-bike-lock-attacks-in-berkeley/
Trump can do a Fireside Chat with YouTube videos and make the MSM look like utter morons. I’m not sure why he thinks Tweets are enough. This is the age where televised visual evidence is necessary.
Yes, there's much he can do to expose this evil; I don't understand why he doesn't.
Trump can do a Fireside Chat with YouTube videos ........................... They’d be removed for being inflammatory.
Great plan.
The only criticism I have of Trump’s statements is that he did not name Antifa. I figure it was not prepared statement and he probably wasn’t aware of the group’s name off the top of his head.
Notice the swastker on that Antifa
She said she wasn’t aware of what Trump said until Thursday, when she heard a clip on the news. I can only imagine what clip and what news.
Pun intended?
Leftist agitators started the violence. They will do it again, soon, and the media will immediately understand that its role is to blame the violence on Trump supporters.
The people are not that dumb to not believe Soro’s army antifa went there for no other reason than to do battle with an alt. right group who had a permit to protest the removal of confederate statues . The video was real clear to me . A civil war is beginning and the news media is worthless to our countries survival . They are the enemy of America’s existence .
And in a round-about way, the media was right. Both sides were only ONE side. AntiFa, BLM, Occupy, KKK and Nazis are ALL products of the left, as are "white supremacists". The original rally billed as Unite the Right was false-flag from the get-go, the leader being a leftist. It has come to light that one of the event’s leaders, Jordan Kessler, was an Obama supporter and contributor to CNN. An Occupy participant as well. These details point to an event organized by one side to shatter Trump’s base and depict conservatives as white supremacists.
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