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To: RArtfulogerDodger

There have been so many Star Trek films that they’re starting to rip themselves off. But in ‘Beyond’ they managed to rip off Star Wars (A New Hope) as well.

Kirk and crew suddenly want to go out and intercept a mysterious threat. Where have we seen that before?

The finale - combat/race in tight spaces - is a shameless lift of the original Star Wars Death Star battle.

It’s a shame because the actors typically sign 3-picture deals and Paramount et al have squandered the entire cast (not all of them are good however) and three whole films.

I’ve read several sources who note that films cannot be made profitable without sales in Russia, China and elsewhere therefore big dumb loud noisy whiz-bang nothingness is the order of the day since dialogue and plot-heavy films don’t translate idiomatically.

On the other hand, the producers and studios all claim that audiences have ADD and won’t pay attention to nuance but I believe it is the filmmakers who suffer the ADD. The sausage-factory scriptwriting process in Hollyweird is also abysmal.

Now there will be a tiresome reboot of a franchise that only rebooted in 2009.


37 posted on 06/18/2017 7:59:54 PM PDT by relictele
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To: relictele
I’ve read several sources who note that films cannot be made profitable without sales in Russia, China and elsewhere therefore big dumb loud noisy whiz-bang nothingness is the order of the day since dialogue and plot-heavy films don’t translate idiomatically.

On the other hand, the producers and studios all claim that audiences have ADD and won’t pay attention to nuance but I believe it is the filmmakers who suffer the ADD. The sausage-factory scriptwriting process in Hollyweird is also abysmal.

I have heard that Star Trek movies with the original cast didn't do well outside the US, because they were too slowly paced and had too much dialog. But that is also the reason why they were better than the rebooted series. Watching the Wrath of Khan now, what really stands out is how much time is spent developing the characters, so that when the plot gets going, it actually means something, to the characters and the audience. I could never imagine a modern movie spending screen time like this:

Admiral Kirk's Birthday at Home

42 posted on 06/18/2017 8:43:32 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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