Posted on 04/24/2017 2:33:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Half the technology you enjoy on a daily basis is from us going to the Moon.
We should make a list...
LOL! Lots of hydrogen and oxygen on the Moon.
Cost of their manufacture and delivery to space is assumably cheaper.
Fuel, water, and oxygen are the best early candidates for export!
Of course it’s hard to get it through to such an ignorant person that the key here is ‘a market’ for the products.
Presently there are just the demands of ISS and satellites’ fuel- which likely wouldn’t return a profit now. However some growth in demand (say, Mars exploration) will.
Yes, just lying around waiting for someone to pick them up.
Of course its hard to get it through to such an ignorant person that the key here is a market for the products.
What market? The Martians? The Uranians. They just hang around Uranus. There isn't any market in space in case you hadn't noticed. And before you come out with your ridiculous argument that space exploration will build a market, you need to look up the meaning of the term "circular argument."
I get tired of trying to present logic and economic realities to space kadets. They confuse science fiction with science fact. There isn't anything in space that makes it worth the cost of going there. Come up with a really good science fiction drive - like anti-gravity or some such non-existent deus ex machina device that makes space travel as cheap as ocean transport and then you enter the realm of reality. But until then your ideas are in the realm of fiction.
OR better yet, pay for lunar exploration yourself. You should be able to do that since it "pays for itself"
Those who "expose" motorcycle gangs are murderers and pedophiles.
No wonder you're in hiding. Are you going to hop the Mars rocket to escape from Federal jurisdiction? :)
LOL!
When someone acts such a fool I assume it’s because they enjoy being treated as one... so my mean streak tells me to make you suffer by just ignoring your deliberate silliness.
You are a stalker and a thread hijacker. Please stay on topic.
The Mars mission will be very interesting. I think it's a one-way ticket.
“Easy. The fuel needed to get something off the moon’s surface HAS TO COME FROM THE EARTH FIRST.”
You can use solar and nuclear power to produce the rocket fuel on the moon.
Oh how could I forget the industrial base that exists on the moon to process fuel out of rocks - just like we do on earth. Wait -
I enjoy unintentional irony, and every one of your posts has supplied plenty of it. Thanks.
My question is "how?" to both.
“We get oxygen from the atmosphere (missing on the moon) and hydrogen from natural gas (missing on the moon) reforming.”
I was an O2 Tech on a nuclear submarine. We didn’t get our O2 or H2 from the atmosphere.
No you got it from hydrolysis and you didn’t get it from rocks did you? But NASA gets theirs the way I said, and hydrolysis requires water and a LOT of energy. No water on the moon despite some dubious papers about polar radar returns, and how much does a reactor weigh and how much does the mechanism to get rid of the waste heat in the absence of an ocean weigh? I posted the picture of the NASA hydrogen tank to give an idea of how much was required.
Space kadets (a term I use for uncritical space enthusiasts) never think quantitatively when it comes to their science fiction dreams, and they never figure the cost. They always want “the government” to pay meaning they want to confiscate the fruits of the labors of their fellow citizens to pay for their silly dreams.
The LCROSS Lunar satellite has already found significant amounts of water on the moon’s southern pole, in permanently shadowed craters. That along with an energy source is all that is needed to manufacture rocket fuel. If we really want a presence in space, we’ll need refueling stops, and the moon would make an excellent one. If we don’t, then there is no point at all to NASA. It’s of national interest, not just private. There is in fact a lot of tangible benefits to be gotten. A single asteroid can yield more valuable heavy metals than all the mines on Earth. To get them, we’ll need to do more than send probes.
Define "significant amounts"
Oh, you don't know either.
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