Wow! who knew that standing up for the rights of the individual citizen against arbitrary, over-bearing authority by state officials and employees of private corporations was defined as being a “snowflake” now?
When did free-born Americans become such slavish jackboot lickers?
Maybe -maybe- United had the law on its side, although I doubt that the law was designed to give authority to airline staff to simply tell anybody on a flight to do what they are told or be thrown bodily off the aircraft. If the air hostess had asked the passenger to stand up and say “jiggy-biggy-doo, I love United so do you!” or be thrown off the flight would that be ok?
The exact corollary to this is someone going into McDonalds (previous convictions are utterly and totally irrelevant to this matter by the way) ordering a cheeseburger, paying for it, taking it and sitting down at the table, opening the wrapper and preparing to eat it and then have a waitress come over and tell him that he can’t have it.
He can’t have it because they didn’t cook enough cheeseburgers tonight and an off-duty waitress has just walked in, she’s hungry and she wants a cheeseburger and so the man has to hand over his burger -which he paid for- to the hungry member of staff.
Now let’s imagine in some bizarro-world that McDonalds would be allowed to do that, what would the customer’s reaction be?
Simple, it would be one of outrage, he would say he was hungry, it was his burger, he paid for it, he doesn’t give a fiddler’s damn about the hungry waitress wanting his burger he isn’t going to hand over the burger that belongs to him.
The restaurant calls the police and three cops arrive and drag him, busting his mouth, out of the restaurant.
And people here would support the cops and McDonalds because cops and big corporations would never do anything wrong? Is that the standard of freedom we must accept now?
May their chains rest lightly on their shoulders because whatever else they might be they aren’t free-born conservatives.
Not a valid comparison.
A private person (company) owns their property and has the RIGHT to set the terms of sale. In this case, United even though regulated through the DOT did something legal (overbooked the flight) as they have always done. Further, they told PRIOR TO THE SALE, that they overbook their flights and passengers may be required to be involuntarily bumped. The passenger then ACCEPTED the terms of that contract and completed their purchase.
Then they throw a fit when the carrier expects the passenger to ABIDE by that contract.
How many of those have ancient DUI, maybe a juvenile rap sheet for some youthful indiscretion, maybe a scuffle at a bar or a heated exchange with a sorry ass neighbor where the police were called, taxes where a $10 cash donation became a $100, an adulterous affair.....and on and on things that they have settled their legal debt for and yet who knew that their wrongdoing lost them their rights in perpetuity?
I see by your “logic” that you are not a lawyer, but I’ll try t5o help you understand.
“Wow! who knew that standing up for the rights of the individual citizen against arbitrary, over-bearing authority by state officials and employees of private corporations was defined as being a “snowflake” now? “
WHEN ONE IS TOLD BY LEOS THAT YOU ARE ARRESTED, YOU HAVE A LEGAL DUTY TO COMPLY. IF YOU DO NOT, YOU CAN BE CHARGED WITH FAILURE TO COMPLY, RESISTING ARREST, ETC, EVEN IF THE UNDERLING CHARGE IS LATER TO PROVED UNFOUNDED.
AN EXAMPLE, YOU ARE PULLED OVER BY AN LEO FOR 30 IN A 20 MPH ZONE. IN RUNNING YOUR DL, COMPUTER TELLS THE LEO YOU HAVE AN OUTSTANDING WARRANT FROM NEW YORK STATE.
LEO TELLS YOU YOU ARE UNDER ARREST FOR THAT WARRANT. YOU KNOW THE WARRANT IS BAD INFORMATION, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.
YOU STILL MUST COMPLY WITH THE ARREST. YOU HAVE A GREAT CIVIL CASE FOR FALSE ARREST LATER.
HOWEVER, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESIST THE ARREST IN THE STREET, IN YOUR CAR, ON AN AIRLINER, OR IF YOU DO, YOU WILL BE CHARGED WITH RESTING ARREST, AND SUFFER THE LEGAL, AND PERHAPS PHYSICAL PROBLEMS YOU BRING ON BY YOUR ARREST.
POINTS OF LAW ARE SETTLED IN COURT, NOT IN THE STREET.
DR. DAO MAY HAVE HAD A CIVIL CLAIM FOR BEING DENIED CARRIAGE, ($10,000?) BUT EVERYTHING SUBSEQUENT TO HIS FAILURE TO FOLLOW THE DEPLANEING ORDER IS ON HIM, NOT UNITED.
HE MAY HAVE AN EXCESSIVE FORCE COMPLAINT AGAINST THE CITY/AIRPORT, BUT THAT IS VERY TENUOUS AS THE LEOS ARE ON TAPE ASKING HIM TO LEAVE AND TELLING HIM IT MAY GET BAD IF HE DOES NOT.
“When did free-born Americans become such slavish jackboot lickers?”
PLEASE, THAT RHETORIC IS ABOUT AS OLD AS THE RACE CARD.
PLEASE ALSO HAVE SOME LEGAL TRAINING BEFORE YOU TRY TO DRAW A LEGAL COROLLARY. THAT MCDONALDS ONE IS A NON-STARTER.
Finally, I can get his prior convictions, medical licensing suspensions in a heartbeat
Me Dr, did you tell the LEOs why you thought you needed special consideration to remain on the flight?
W: Yes
Me: And what was that?
W: I said I was a doctor?
Me: And are you a doctor, a physician?
W: Yes
Me: And why did you say you had to be on that flight, and someone else would have to get off.
W; I said I was a doctor.
Me: A doctor, ok... we’ll get into that a bit more later. But didn’t you say there was a particular reason you had to be on THAT flight?
W: Yes
Me: And what was it you said, why did you falsely claim you had to be on that particular flight, put someone else off.
W: I don’t know what you mean.
ME; It’s really very simple, Dooooctor. Didn’t you tell everyone you had to perform surgery the first thing the next morning.
W: I guess I did.
Me: Did you have to perform surgery that next morning?
W: No
I’m sorry could you repeat tha,t please in a little louder voice.
W: No
Me; No, you didn’t have to perform surgery the next morning, is that correct?
W: Yes
Me. There isn’t any chance that you could have mixed up the dates is there?
W: I don’t know what you mean.
Me: There isn’t any chance you could have surgery set for, let’s say, Wednesday and confused it for Monday is it?
W: I’m not sure (he thinks I’m giving somewhere to run to, but that door is about to be slammed shut)
Me. Let me put it another way, there’s now way you could have thought you had surgery scheduled for Monday... no way at all, because YOUR NOT A SURGEON ARE YOU DOCTOR!!!!
W : that’s correct (dejectedly)
Me: Your a internal medicine doctor, one that generally prescribed medicines to see if the pills will cure the patient, aren’t you.
W: Yes
ME; So if a patient needed summery, you would never operate on them, you would refer them to a surgeon, am I right.
W: Yes
ME: So your false claim about having to surgery on Monday has to be a lie, doesn’t it?
W: yes
ME; A lie?
W: yes,
Me; Oh, one more “little” thing... Dooooctor. You couldn’t have been mistaken about which day of the week your phony surgery claim was about, could you?
W What do you mean?
ME; You couldn’t have mistaken Monday for another day, could you.
W: No
ME: Why is that?
W: I only practice one day a week
ME: Why is that?
W: That’s all my license allows
ME Why is that?
W; my license was suspended and reinstated on a limited basis
ME: Why is that?
W; i lost me medical license.
Me: Why was that?
We keep going deeper and deeper into the WHY questions until we get to the Who questions, who did you sell drugs too? and we keep boring down deeper until he is nothing more than a total perp who turned his medical education into a way to victimize patients and make money.
Me Sooooo, Do0000ctor, let’s me see if i can sum up your testimony on just this part of the case.
You lied about being a doctor who had to operate the next morning, you knew you were lying because you are not a surgeon, never were a surgeon, and you knew the date couldn’t be confused because you could only be at the clinic one day a week because you have a VERY limited medical license because you’re a convicted low down drug pusher... a drug pusher in a white coat... and some might think that’s the worst kind....
Do I have that about right, Dooooctor !!!!!!!!!!!!!
P Counsel objects, and I don’t care what the ruling is. because I got my question in, and the jury, in their minds, answered it for him!!!
Then we go on how how he planned it all, then.... When we get through every detail, it will be the worst 2 days of his life, and the jury won’t give him bubkas!