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Cornyn set to bring national reciprocity bill to Senate
guns.com ^ | Feb. 27, 2017 | Chris Eger

Posted on 02/27/2017 8:15:23 AM PST by PROCON

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Expect vicious opposition from the democrats.

Linked info at article link.

1 posted on 02/27/2017 8:15:23 AM PST by PROCON
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2 posted on 02/27/2017 8:15:57 AM PST by PROCON (Defending the Border isn't a Political Option, it's a Constitutional Obligation ~ Rick Perry)
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To: PROCON

Did I read that correctly? Cornyn proposed this bill? Mr Uniparty RINO Cornyn?

He must be reading the tea leaves that say this bill will not get to Trump’s desk.


3 posted on 02/27/2017 8:22:54 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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...“would give gun owners the freedom to use their concealed carry permits in other parts of the country, so long as the jurisdiction recognizes the permit as lawful.”

I already have this. National Reciprocity means that it is those states that don't currently allow me to carry to recognize my right to carry. Who is to say that California, New York, and/or all the other leftist states will recognize my CCP as lawful?

4 posted on 02/27/2017 8:30:46 AM PST by Purdue77 (I can't afford a tag line.)
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To: PROCON

The minority demands NOTHING !


5 posted on 02/27/2017 8:31:54 AM PST by Delta 21 (The minority demands NOTHING !)
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To: ByteMercenary

My thought exactly. If Cornyn proposed it you can bet it is for the optics only and he knows it won’t pass or probably even be voted on. Now, when he campaigns he can say he proposed a bill. Typical Cornyn tricks.


6 posted on 02/27/2017 8:37:14 AM PST by 1riot1ranger
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To: PROCON

Here in Missouri you don’t need a permit to carry.

Wonder how it would work for us?


7 posted on 02/27/2017 8:38:08 AM PST by Bobalu (The fool has said in his heart that there is no God...I am not a fool.)
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To: Purdue77

Agreed. This appears to be double speak by a politician. It appears to change nothing.


8 posted on 02/27/2017 8:38:48 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: PROCON

Be very cautious...the idea is excellent. Congress can screw up a flip flop. Look at the details. Those will be critical. If the bill is longer than a sentence or two it should be a no go


9 posted on 02/27/2017 8:45:20 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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115th CONGRESS, 1st Session

H. R. 38

To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a means by which nonresidents of a State whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the State.

A BILL

To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a means by which nonresidents of a State whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the State.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the “Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017”.

SEC. 2. RECIPROCITY FOR THE CARRYING OF CERTAIN CONCEALED FIREARMS.

(a) In General.—Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 926C the following:
Ҥ 926D. Reciprocity for the carrying of certain concealed firearms
“(a) Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof (except as provided in subsection (b)) and subject only to the requirements of this section, a person who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, who is carrying a valid identification document containing a photograph of the person, and who is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm or is entitled to carry a concealed firearm in the State in which the person resides, may possess or carry a concealed handgun (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, in any State that—
“(1) has a statute under which residents of the State may apply for a license or permit to carry a concealed firearm; or
“(2) does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms by residents of the State for lawful purposes.

“(b) This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that—
“(1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or
“(2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park.

“(c)(1) A person who carries or possesses a concealed handgun in accordance with subsections (a) and (b) may not be arrested or otherwise detained for violation of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof related to the possession, transportation, or carrying of firearms unless there is probable cause to believe that the person is doing so in a manner not provided for by this section. Presentation of facially valid documents as specified in subsection (a) is prima facie evidence that the individual has a license or permit as required by this section.
“(2) When a person asserts this section as a defense in a criminal proceeding, the prosecution shall bear the burden of proving, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the conduct of the person did not satisfy the conditions set forth in subsections (a) and (b).
“(3) When a person successfully asserts this section as a defense in a criminal proceeding, the court shall award the prevailing defendant a reasonable attorney’s fee.

“(d)(1) A person who is deprived of any right, privilege, or immunity secured by this section, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage of any State or any political subdivision thereof, may bring an action in any appropriate court against any other person, including a State or political subdivision thereof, who causes the person to be subject to the deprivation, for damages or other appropriate relief.
“(2) The court shall award a plaintiff prevailing in an action brought under paragraph (1) damages and such other relief as the court deems appropriate, including a reasonable attorney’s fee. “(e) In subsection (a):
“(1) The term ‘identification document’ means a document made or issued by or under the authority of the United States Government, a State, or a political subdivision of a State which, when completed with information concerning a particular individual, is of a type intended or commonly accepted for the purpose of identification of individuals.
“(2) The term ‘handgun’ includes any magazine for use in a handgun and any ammunition loaded into the handgun or its magazine.

“(f)(1) A person who possesses or carries a concealed handgun under subsection (a) shall not be subject to the prohibitions of section 922(q) with respect to that handgun.
“(2) A person possessing or carrying a concealed handgun in a State under subsection (a) may do so in any of the following areas in the State that are open to the public:
“(A) A unit of the National Park System.
“(B) A unit of the National Wildlife Refuge System.
“(C) Public land under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management.
“(D) Land administered and managed by the Army Corps of Engineers.
“(E) Land administered and managed by the Bureau of Reclamation.”.
(b) Clerical Amendment.—The table of sections for such chapter is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 926C the following:

“926D. Reciprocity for the carrying of certain concealed firearms.”.
(c) Severability.—Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, if any provision of this section, or any amendment made by this section, or the application of such provision or amendment to any person or circumstance is held to be unconstitutional, this section and amendments made by this section and the application of such provision or amendment to other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby.
(d) Effective Date.—The amendments made by this section shall take effect 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.

10 posted on 02/27/2017 8:48:11 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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They well force the states to recognize them the same way they force the states to do other federally mandated programs.

We well cut your money off if you don’t has worked well in the passed.

HR218 has all ready set president.


11 posted on 02/27/2017 8:51:42 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: PROCON

They should introduce a separate bill that makes the banning of all “assault weapons” and high-capacity magazines as unconstitutional in all 50 states. Then make the Supreme Court vote on it. They have punted for far too long on the second amendment.


12 posted on 02/27/2017 8:58:43 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Bottom Line: It takes 60 votes to pass and democrats will be vehemently opposed.

Kick the dems out in 2018 mid-terms.

Nothing this significant will come easy.

13 posted on 02/27/2017 9:10:05 AM PST by PROCON (Defending the Border isn't a Political Option, it's a Constitutional Obligation ~ Rick Perry)
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They can’t filibuster this according to current congressional rules right? I thought the only thing they could filibuster was Supreme Court nominations.


14 posted on 02/27/2017 9:15:00 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: PROCON

Wait. Wouldn’t such a federal law be anti-10th Amendment and state sovereignty? Wouldn’t this be an example of the “central planning” that we don’t like? Confused here.


15 posted on 02/27/2017 9:19:01 AM PST by mtrott
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This is a great bill. It got 57 votes in 2013. It should have a minimum of 58 votes this year. Trump/Pence/Cornyn only need to pick up two more votes to hit 60 to get it past a fillibuster.

The are four Democrat Senators that voted against it in 2013 coming up for election in 2018, that are running in states that Trump won in 2016. They are:

Bill Nelson, Florida Over - 1,400,000 permits

Claire McCaskill, Missouri - Over 171,000 permits

Sherrod Brown, Ohio Over - 574,000 permits

Bob Casey, Pennsylvania Over - 1,000,000 permits

All of those permit holders are voters.


16 posted on 02/27/2017 9:19:42 AM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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Good info, thanks. Let’s see what’s more important to these dems, serving their constituents or getting reelected.


17 posted on 02/27/2017 9:21:52 AM PST by PROCON (Defending the Border isn't a Political Option, it's a Constitutional Obligation ~ Rick Perry)
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To: mtrott

If you compare this bill to national reciprocity for drivers licenses it has precedent. And drivers licenses are privileges, gun rights are Constitutional.


18 posted on 02/27/2017 9:24:01 AM PST by PROCON (Defending the Border isn't a Political Option, it's a Constitutional Obligation ~ Rick Perry)
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To: PROCON

Not terribly excited about this bill, in part because it incorporates the commerce clause as a basis. The several States have their own reciprocity agreements, which seems different from what this bill is purporting to offer. Also, there is no provision for Constitutional carry, or for carrying in States with restrictive/no gun carry rules. Moreover, what if CA or NY bans concealed carry completely after this bill is passed?? The GOA-backed bill is better. I would improve it by giving the innocent the right to sue for civil rights violations if any government official violates the RTC. It would need to be a tightly written statute so that it would not be abused.


19 posted on 02/27/2017 9:33:28 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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Expect vicious opposition from the democrats.

Expect vicious opposition from the lying weasel Cornyn himself. He has a closet full of flip flops. He's a dyed in the wool demoncrat no matter what party letter he has behind his name.

20 posted on 02/27/2017 9:56:48 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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