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To: philman_36; Hugin
Where/from whence is that federal aspect laid out? The cart and the horse, again.

It really isn't hard to do some research even online and find out, instead of convolution & constantly moving in circles, philman_36.

Definition of a Federal Republic:

"The United States is a federal republic [as opposed to a Unitary Republic] in which the president, Congress, and federal courts share powers reserved to the national government according to its Constitution. At the same time, the federal government shares sovereignty with the state governments." -- here

Then why is there representation instead of direct voting in the Constitution?

Per my original comment in #28 - A democracy means:

“a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Isn't direct voting THE hallmark of a democracy?

From another FR thread to which you pinged me, post 19 -- ”What differentiates us is that we are democratic, in the Jeffersonian sense of all citizens being equal, and government coming from the consent of the governed. That’s how “democracy” is used in today’s English, not a reference to Athens style direct majority rule. That’s how Scalia used it, and how I use it. Arguing that “we are not a democracy, we are a republic” just confuses things.

87 posted on 03/03/2017 5:10:01 PM PST by odds
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To: philman_36

>>>”You’re proving my point.”<<<

Hopefully you get what I’ve said throughout. This discussion started with Republic vs. Democracy definition, in this thread.

Furthermore, the US is equally a democracy as discussed in this thread and the other linked FR thread in #87.

But, your insistence the US is a “Constitutional Republic” is at best incomplete.

There are many “Constitutional Republics” - Iran, Republic of Ireland and France are examples. There are many more. Not all are “Federal Republics” and (true) representative democracies at the same time, as the US is.

The correct and official term to use for the US is “Federal Republic” - naturally with a very democratic Constitution which specifies & qualifies the aforementioned designation.


88 posted on 03/03/2017 10:07:37 PM PST by odds
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