[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Interesting stuff.

Personally, I like the Centurion 12ga loads that have a single .60 caliber steel ball in a finned plastic casing to impart spin. Turns your shotgun into a rather accurate musket.

On a different note, I like your posts but the format always looks messed up.

If you place an html paragraph separator ( <p> ) before your first picture link and after, it will align things nicely and make it more pleasing to the eye. Just sayin'.

Sort of like this:

This was based on a "pen shank" created by Michael Yeh. Greg from TAOFLEDERMAUS Youtuber gets a chance to shoot this needle at a clump of clay and jelly down range. Check out the results below. You can see the needle footage here.

[TexasGator]

61 grains

[43north]

I don’t think anything developed so far for the 12 bore is better than the Brenneke slug although some of the sabot slugs are said to perform well, especially in rifled barrels.

[Flatus I. Maximus]

Looks like the wad (sabot?) did almost as much damage as the slug.