Posted on 02/11/2017 1:14:15 PM PST by Republicanprofessor
Why all the hate? Why do so many of the liberals so viscerally despise Trump and all Republicans who side with him? Was there ever such hate for Obama? I know there were deep policy disputes with Obama, but conservatives were prevented from expressing the kind of hatred we see today for fear of being called racist. And, honestly, I never felt hatred for Obama; disagreement, definitely. But not the hatred we see today on the left. In fact, most of Obamas presidency was enabled for that very reason: Republicans were terrified of that racist label, and they did not resist Obamas policies while today Trumps very breath is opposed by all liberals with the deepest hatred I have ever seen in this country.
And thus I wonder: why such vicious hatred? Do liberals see themselves as threatened, and has this led to this loathing? Why are liberals more shocked and hateful nowadays than conservatives were eight years ago?
I think it comes down to self-identity. All human beings want to be safe and comfortable; we want to be fed, housed, educated, and reimbursed for the work we do. When our life-styles are threatened, we react.
I think liberals self-define themselves politically more so than conservatives. A liberal friend recently sent me a long list of causes that he supports, over fifteen causes, from abortion to immigration, as if that list defined and defended who he is. On election day, he says, I didn't cry because I hated Trump or was afraid of him, I cried because he showed me that the people of this country are much, much worse than I thought they were. When liberals see their beliefs threatened, they blame others for not agreeing with them; they riot rather than hear another side by a provocative speaker; they crumble and resort to viciousness and hatred, accusing conservatives of ruining their country and, by extension, their ideals and their lives. This may be because their own identity is intrinsically linked to their liberal politics.
On the contrary, I think conservatives are defined by many more things than political beliefs, and when they lose an election, they are disappointed but they go on with their lives. They realize that there isnt a great deal that the president can do that affects our daily lives. It is really our own responsibility, our own actions that define our lives and determine our well being. Conservatives do not rely on the government to make us happy, while liberals seem to believe that governments role is to make all lives better and happier. So when there is a change of government, they cannot cope. They feel their own happiness falling in shreds at their feet, even though no real action has yet affected their lives. Unable to see the other side, nor the possibilities inherent in new policies, they strike out in bitterness and hatred.
As one of my friends noted recently: "Conservatives strongly support the rights, responsibilities, and privileges of the individual, so they tend to be less interested in controlling the thoughts, behaviors, and values of other people. Conversely, liberals believe that individuals must conform to the needs and desires of society, so they have a tendency to want to control the thoughts, ideals, and actions of others."
In case you are interested in my own political journey: I was raised in a Republican household, but while in college, I remember arguing with my father at the dinner table. In college and graduate schools, because of my interest in art, I was of course surrounded by liberals. But I was not politically aware. I never voted for Reagan. I bought all the distortion dealt by the media. I voted for John Anderson, an independent vote that I realize was now was totally wasted. I voted for Geraldine Ferraro as VP because she was a woman.
I followed the liberal line, until I became pregnant and then miscarried. My husband, always a stronger conservative than I, asked a simple question about abortion that I had never truly considered: Is it murder or is it not? Thus I began to rethink my positions. And then Clarence Thomas came up for the Supreme Court. Living between my studio (in a mill by a waterfall) and our tiny apartment, I listened to every minute of the hearings, only missing the moments walking to and from my car. I was appalled by the bias of NPR and the lynching of a black man because he dared to have conservative ideas. The hearings with Anita Hill, the pubic hair on the coke can were so outrageous; I did not yet realize how the media could lie. I began listening to alternative voices on the radio. I became a conservative.
Now I am one of the few conservative professors at a state university. I do voice my views on Facebook but not generally around the university. I disagree with many of my colleagues politically, but I dont hate them. I am dismayed at the liberal bias of so many universities, but there isnt much that I can do. Some of my professor friends at different universities were shocked when I came out on Facebook as a conservative. What happened to you?! It was only later that I realized that if my opinions were so foreign to my liberal professor friends, then there was indeed more bias at universities than I had realized. I like to think that my college is more balanced, but that is probably because I only really know my own classes, where I do try to be politically neutral as I point out links between the past and events of today, even in art history classes.
In any event, I do not define myself solely by my politics; there are many other activities in which I take great joy and which define my life. I dont take political stances in order to be accepted and approved by others. I continued with my life during the Clinton and Obama presidencies, even while questioning their policies. I didnt sink into depression and hatred when Obamacare was passed in the middle of the night with no Republican votes. However, I did hope for its overturn and a more rational and well-developed plan to replace Obamacare. I am still hoping for this, and the same is true for correcting many of Obamas other disastrous policies.
What I wish is that liberals would realize is that there is a great deal of apolitical pleasure in the world. Happiness is available through many different channels, and ones identity should not be at risk because there is a Republican in the White House. The pendulum will doubtless swing back left again in time. I just wish liberals would chill out a bit, cut down on the hatred, and give this president at least a chance to seat his cabinet. It is what they expected, and received, with Obama and what they will expect with next Democratic president.
It’s because they believe all the lies of progressivism.
Progressivism tells them that as progressives they are generous, kind, loving, tolerant, peaceful, “non-judgmental,” smarter and “open minded.” In comparison, conservatives are greedy, war-mongering, racist, hateful, “close-minded,” intolerant, dumber, “judgmental,” and mean.
If this were accurate, I would say they have a fairly good case against conservatives.
The problem is they don’t see or understand their thought disorder, and they don’t want to see or understand it.
I do remember that visceral hate for Bush in 2000. I used to think it was because he won in such a closely contested race, what with the Florida recount and all. But I think I need to see that “hate” in a broader context nowadays.
I think you somewhat overstate the degree to which this personally affects liberals. It’s extreme, but they like protesting and being victims and being outraged. It’s not depressing to them personally.
But I do as someone who grew and lives around almost exclusively liberals think that there’s a degree of animus towards Trump that is above and beyond that held towards the typical Republican right-winger. The reason is that Trump fights them on their own battlegrounds.
Someone like Bush was content to cede the media, academia, the culture, etc. to the liberals, so long as he was in charge of the military and GOP-allied segments of the corporate world such as the oil industry. Liberals can live with that, their basic view of how the world is does not get challenged, it just happens that they are out of power.
But Trump wants to fight them in the media, in the culture, on the campus, and his fight is basically about what is and what is not, and there’s no compromising. Either Trump’s version of the truth prevails, or theirs. So it’s an existential fight, if Trump wins, then they not only lose politically, but everything they believe becomes not the truth, but just another political opinion. They can’t abide that, so they fight.
Excellent post (and excellent tagline).
Collectivism is one of the basic principles of libtardism. Libtards divide everyone into groups, and there is always one group or another that is victimized and oppressed by some other group. This naturally causes divisiveness and hatred.It is what libtardism thrives on.
“Liberalism is a religion. Its adherents consider you and me heretics and deserving of death.”
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That would certainly explain why liberals seemingly love muslims. Hating those that don’t believe the way you do is definitely a common trait with liberals and muslims.
Perfectly stated.
I NEVER thought that lifelong (liberal) friends and family members actually thought like that, but they do.
Such absolute unhinged insanity and hatred.
None of them say oh, lets agree to disagree. Or, well, there are more important things in life than politics.
Nope.
Literal hatred of me and my ideas.
It must be just terrible for liberals, so perfect in every way - morally, intellectually, spiritually - to have to admit to and submit to the idea that such a flawed and inferior individual as Donald Trump, representing such an inadequate group as the Republican party, actually will be governing them - quel horreur (apologies to my high school French teacher).......
They feel Entitled, and they think their Entitlements are going to be taken away.
Hate you asked about and it comes in various facets. Here is a daughter’s hate for her
father expressed in the obiturary she wrote. Scroll down to read the entire obit.
http://abc13.com/news/woman-who-wrote-brutal-obit-says-she-meant-every-word/1749259/
or here is the FR article posted about it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3523896/posts?
Obama, being the anti Christ personality he is, gave such a strong sense of entitlement that they believe utter crap is truth. What Obama really did was create wealth for himself while intoxicating and destroying their party for his benefit (and little advance of ideology), but the grass roots haven’t figured this out yet. If they ever do. He was reckless with their beliefs and power to feed his net worth and ego.
the L$M was in the tank for hiLIARy so we went over it and around it and the truth will out
Trump indeed.
Trust me I hated Zero big time, I’m just not a Liberal Chimpanzee acting out by flinging poo
Not to over simplify this matter but a large part is related to the propaganda the media spews of which the low info crowd - just for fun I’ll throw Hollywood in there - believes as truth (they can’t think by themselves). Don’t want to forget political correctness too; someones feelings will get hurt. Actually, it’s really become significantly intertwined in many aspects of life such as education for one. A Good post :)
Thanks, YogicCowboy, nice of you to say so.
I must admit, the behavior of liberals has always been disturbing to me, but never rose to the level of alarming me because they are generally all talk and too lazy to follow through. Lately, though, I have indeed been alarmed by their behavior.
It is their open talk of doing violence to both people, and the democratic processes that I think should be paid attention to. The problem now it is so out in the open and pervasive that the people who are capable of violence because they cannot control themselves are mixed in with the leftist moonbats who are are only too happy to egg them on.
The scumbag in the Veritas videos who bragged about enlisting mentally ill people to cause problems at Trump rallies was only the tip of the iceberg.
Good thread, by the way.
I think Leftists do want everyone to conform to society’s needs and desires BUT Leftists believe that the needs and desires conform to their personal beliefs.
This belief that society should conform to their personal beliefs stems from narcissism. I used to think narcissism wasn’t dangerous but I was terribly wrong.
The narcissist doesn’t accept that his her beliefs could be wrong. Those beliefs come from their feelings, which must also be correct since it originated in them. They are not partial to examination of their beliefs to figure out their validity.
I prefer to keep it simple. Satan hates God and His people, and President Trump has sided with God and His people. Makes it easy to tell who is on Satan’s payroll.
They hate themselves, and it all just ripples outward from there. It's that simple.
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