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1 posted on 12/10/2016 8:20:29 PM PST by fightin kentuckian
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There are two big spikes in hepatitis C. One is from the aging baby boomers who experimented with drugs in their youth before they straightened up their act. The second is what I call the Obama generation, younger people realizing that unless they networked at Harvard or Yale they’re doomed to live in a soul crushing bureaucracy that affords them no chance to achieve the wealth of their parents.

The new drugs are game changers with very high success rates and very low side effect profiles. Whether they should be priced so high is a question I’m not qualified to answer.


41 posted on 12/10/2016 8:57:18 PM PST by JusPasenThru (SJW is the weaponization of compassion.)
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The commercial is ridiculous- they all look like they are on vacation. An in-law (baby boomer) had hep-c from iv drug use in the 60’s. She underwent a chemo treatment a few years ago. She does not look like the happy, healthy people in the commercials.


43 posted on 12/10/2016 9:01:09 PM PST by conservative cat
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Gilead’s Sovaldi.


45 posted on 12/10/2016 9:09:22 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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It’s just that a new drug came out and they want the libs to take advantage of it.


47 posted on 12/10/2016 9:23:41 PM PST by Captainpaintball (It appears that we no longer wish to keep our Republic, Mr. Franklin...)
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i've gone through TWO protocols, and i'd rather die than try a third
48 posted on 12/10/2016 9:29:00 PM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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Look on the right side of this link for a listing of articles pertaining to hepatitis c.

http://articles.mercola.com/hepatitis-c/prevention.aspx


49 posted on 12/10/2016 9:34:20 PM PST by Maudeen (No one on this earth is too far gone for Jesus.)
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Hepatitis B and C are endemic in Japan and run generationally in certain families, including my wife’s. It is passed from mother to child at childbirth. Often there are no symptoms until the person eventually develops liver cancer, usually in their forties or fifties, and then dies. I don’t think that this was understood until maybe the 1970s, it was just that some Japanese families had a high incidence of liver cancer.

My wife was tested and it was determined that she had been exposed, presumably at birth from her mother, but her antibodies had beaten it back so she doesn’t have the virus lurking in her now. Her mother also had no symptoms and lived into her eighties, so it must have stayed latent in her mom. She probably got it from her mother at birth.

As for how it started, Japan began widespread public hypodermic injections for treatment of schistosomiasis in the early 1900s. (My wife’s family is from Fukuoka, one of the places schistosomiasis was prevalent—you got it through the parasites being in the rice paddies where people were cultivating rice.) It is hypothesized that the vaccinations were done with improperly cleaned needles, and that is how hepatitis was first spread and in some families it then was passed from generation to generation. Essentially they were carriers although they did not demonstrate symptoms (until they developed liver cancer).

One of the most famous victims of Japanese hepatitis was Edwin Reischauer, the American Japan scholar who was attacked and wounded by a deranged knife wielder in Japan and then had to have blood transfusions, and thereafter developed acute Hep C, which had presumably come from tainted blood donors in the transfusions. It took him some 20 or 30 years to die from the disease.


52 posted on 12/10/2016 9:51:14 PM PST by kaehurowing
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Its due to heroin addiction rising and dating apps


53 posted on 12/10/2016 9:51:39 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Repeal & replace Obamacare, tax reform, fix infrastructure, fixin military, Israel, kill enemies)
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What’s behind the commercials?

In essence, the new generation of therapies are so successful (98%+ cure rate), that the manufacturers (Gilead and Abbvie) are running out of patients, and revenues are declining.


57 posted on 12/10/2016 10:02:09 PM PST by oblomov (We have passed the point where "law," properly speaking, has any further application. - C. Thomas)
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My brother was treated. He says he thinks he knows how he contracted the Hep C. The treatment was about $100,000 using insurance. So I figure the insurance companies are the ones that made the money.


60 posted on 12/10/2016 10:10:50 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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its the MONEY....the "cure" for Hep C is about $80,000 if not more...

big pharma creating a crisis so they can rake in the money....

its sickening....

62 posted on 12/10/2016 10:17:18 PM PST by cherry
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I know homosexuals spread lots of hepatitis. I think 24% of them have it. I assume this has something to do with the commercials.


68 posted on 12/10/2016 10:36:17 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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It is a millenial disease because it is transmitted by pedophiles. My pediatrician was against the HepC vaccine because he said it was a mean to hide acts of sexual exploitation or to hush them.

Usually virus require your own metabolism to reproduce. So a cure would be to lower it by thyroid removal.


72 posted on 12/10/2016 11:14:13 PM PST by lavaroise (s)
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It was, and it’s expensive. The ad campaign is probably to sell as much as possible here at its abusive subsidize the world price before people realize they can take a vacation to India and get it for about 1/50th (not a typo) the price...


76 posted on 12/11/2016 12:46:24 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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When I was 9 or 10 I had Hep. There wasn’t Hep A, B or C, Just Hep. It was cleared up with vitamin B.


80 posted on 12/11/2016 2:47:23 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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A doctor at Keesler AFB asked my wife to get tested - hes's my doctor too so he'll probably have me do the same.

We have a friend who suffered for decades and when the new medication came out, she went on the program and no longer has it....expensive but it really seems to work.

83 posted on 12/11/2016 3:55:18 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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General reply to all:

I am an Infectious Disease RN Clinic Coordinator at the Department of Veterans Affairs, and currently run a clinic with 500+ Hepatitis C patients, and utilize a budget of close to $3.4 million dollars for treatment of Hepatitis C. I have presented nationally on the topic. LOTS and LOTS of misconceptions and outright incorrect information in this thread. Let’s set the record straight.

There are 3 kinds of hepatitis, A, B and C. They are viruses that affect your liver that are completely distinct from each other. A is as different from B as strep throat is different than chicken pox. People say they have no risk because they never injected drugs. If you ever had a paper cut in your life, you are at risk of any of the viruses (Hep B, Hep C, HIV, etc...) that are spread by blood. Certain types of viruses CAN be cured with medication, as I discuss below.

Hep A is generally self limiting, and as previously mentioned, spread by fecal-oral route. There is a vaccine for Hep A that takes 2 injections 6 months apart to achieve immunity. For most people, Hep A won’t cause permanent liver damage.

Hep B is spread by blood to blood contact only. It is a lifelong disease that can be suppressed but not cured. There is a 3 part vaccine for Hep B that occasionally has to be repeated but you can be protected against Hep B if you don’t already have it. You can’t get Hep B by sharing a drink or hugging or kissing. Sexual transmission is possible but quite unlikely.

Hep C also requires blood to blood contact. There is no vaccine for Hepatitis C, although it can be cured. It wasn’t identified until 1989 in Japan, and there weren’t blood tests available for it until 1992. There are 7 different kinds of Hepatitis C, called genotypes: 1a, 1b,2,3,4, 5 and 6. One isn’t worse than the other, they are often geographically based....but that said, there are fewer medications for GT3. Different meds work against different genotypes, and there are now drugs (Zepatier, Epclusa) that work against all genotypes.

As we have learned more about the long term implications of Hep C (HCV), it’s been found to be the leading risk factor for liver cancer. That’s why you’re seeing such a push for it...medicare would rather pay for meds than liver cancer or a transplant. HCV is very uncommonly spread by sexual contact...it is not found in semen or vaginal fluid, but microscopic tears in the skin during sex could allow it to be transmitted via blood. This type of transmission accounts for less than 1% of known cases. HCV has few if any symptoms and is a very slow moving virus, so no, it’s not “dormant”....it just takes a long time to have enough virus to start causing scar tissue and eventually cirrhosis, liver cancer and liver failure. Alcohol hastens that process if you’re a heavy drinker....don’t get me started on YOUR definition of “heavy” versus the medical definition of “heavy”..... The amount of shared medical equipment, etc, is why baby boomers (born 1945-1964) are at the greatest risk. All of the major pharmaceutical companies have programs to provide medications for the uninsured or for those whose insurance won’t cover it....just check their websites. I have utilized these programs many times for my patients.

Harvoni is a commonly known med effective for GT 1a, which is the most common in the US. Those are the ads you see on TV most often. It used to be $1100 per pill, and competition has dropped it to about $300-ish per pill depending on sourcing and contracts, etc. (Check out the price of those Shingles vaccines everyone wants.....) I fully agree that the big pharms are lining their pockets somewhat......same med can be had in India for $4/pill. Not going to try to explain that...there is no justification. The new meds work completely differently than the previous peg-interferon and interferon based injections of yesteryear, which were horrific and of limited success for those who could complete the treatments at all. The new meds are pills only and for most people, 8-12 weeks. OCCASIONALLY, an adjunctive medication called Ribavarin is added to these new meds. Ribavarin isn’t pleasant and can cause horrible birth defects, but there are times depending on genotype and treatment-naive vs treatment-experienced (if you had interferon before but failed to achieve a cure) that it is an important supplement. We avoid it if at all possible.

And even after HCV is cured? There is never immunity...if you go out and share needles with someone who has hep c, you WILL get it again, and it’s much harder to treat the second time around. There is NEVER immunity to HCV...no vaccine, previously treated, etc. Come in contact with someone else’s blood and you are at risk. Period. And it doesn’t take a lot of blood at all to spread it.

The reason HCV can be cured is because it is an RNA virus, which is how the virus replicates in your cells. Hepatitis B and HIV are DNA viruses. DNA is like the “brain” of your cell...kinda hard to kill off HBV and HIV without killing the whole cell. Polio is also an RNA virus. Both HIV and HBV can be fully suppressed but will require a lifetime of medications. HIV IS found in sexual fluids as well as blood, and hence can be spread by sexual activity or by sharing needles, tattoos, airguns in the military (I am also a veteran) blood transfusion, re-usable medical equipment, current heroin epidemic among young people, etc....etc. HBV and HCV are not found in sexual fluids.

Oh, and for the record? The government has had no hand in developing ANY of the 15+ HCV meds on the market today. They are all private pharmaceutical companies: Gilead, Abbvie, Merck Pharmaceuticals, etc. This is not a government conspiracy. (are ya kidding? Take off the damn tin foil hat.....)

Please...please...people...STOP the hysteria and don’t speak out about something you don’t know anything about just to continue the drama. I am HAPPY to receive messages here and speak to anyone one on one who has questions. But the amount of utterly ridiculous misinformation is why HCV is still an issue. It’s ONE FREAKING TUBE OF BLOOD that requires no special preparation to get tested and is generally covered fully by most of the free clinics anywhere in America. They’d rather spend $25-50K (the current cost of most 12 week treatments) to cure your HCV than to pay for a liver transplant or liver cancer. Is there any reason not to do it? It takes 2 different tests to confirm HCV infection, but the first step is at least getting tested for exposure.

And on that note...I bid you adieu.....


86 posted on 12/11/2016 5:13:38 AM PST by JustOneStarfish
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There is a treatment that can cure hepatitis C that’s been available for a while now. It’s like chemotherapy. My mother tried it but she couldn’t tolerate it and had to stop.


102 posted on 12/11/2016 6:25:31 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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