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The Transition Trump has a plan for government workers. They’re not going to like it
Against Crony Capitalism ^ | 11-23-2016

Posted on 11/24/2016 10:09:10 AM PST by markomalley

As a longtime resident of government employee country I say this plan couldn’t come soon enough. The bureaucracy in DC is massive, expensive, and entitled. Given the degree to which technology could easily reduce the bloat in the city and beyond wins should come early and relatively easily.

Wins for taxpayers anyway. Washington, the “imperial city” won’t like it and will scream bloody murder. On the other hand recent reports said that up to 35% of federal workers said they’d consider quitting their jobs if Trump became president. I say we call em’ on it.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: federalemployees; layoffs; md2016; trumpagenda; trumptransition; va2016
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To: Terry L Smith

Probably many!

But that one would be the ‘shot heard around the world’!


41 posted on 11/24/2016 1:00:57 PM PST by Reily
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To: Redwood71

Understand. To avoid further pissing off already pissed tax slaves, these arrogant, disconnected assholes SHOULD alter the terminology. They haven’t because they don’t care. I suspect — and PRAY — that they soon will!


42 posted on 11/24/2016 1:22:41 PM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 4TH STATE HERE HAS BECOME A 5TH COLUMN. TREASON TRIALS COMING?)
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To: Redwood71
Sorry Red, but I spent 30 years in aerospace & made above average money by working my butt off. At least Four times in that period I was awarded with a retired 06 as my new boss. ONE of those had truly relevant (but obsolete) experience, another one I was directed to train so he'd know what he was "supervising". One (obsolete experience guy) liked what I did so much that he tried to take the job for himself, passed me over for promotion, then gave himself(!) an award for what I'd done; his replacement former 06 explained & apologized to me before I retired the day I hit 63.5.

So what?
For about half of those 30 years every one of them got monthly retirement checks equal to or greater than my salary and most made damn sure I knew it. I finally passed them but still had only that salary & not the second income they enjoyed. Nor would I qualify for a second retirement and second medical coverage from aerospace employment,

As a side note, I also got to work for or with 2 or 3 retired Generals, several former JAG officers, and several former 05 &06 who were technical doers, they were all decent and reasonable men.
Retired NCOs ran the gamut from real good through behind the tech/regulations curve, to totally useless.

Most prevalent government employee attitude was that losing/wasting/p$$$ing away your budget and demanding more tax dollars to compensate is more noble than reducing costs, fixing failures, and banking a profit.

43 posted on 11/24/2016 2:13:45 PM PST by norton
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To: Redwood71
Not to exacerbate the discussion; but no one here has badmouthed those being "escorted" into hostile situations, many or most of us have been there and done that. We have friends under VA care and probably universally think the govt. underserves those who need that care.

In fact, the VA might be the poster child for government waste and fraud...but its only one of many.

Want to see the problem fixed?
Cut civilian work force by 10% just for openers, cut wages the same, demand accountability and fire low performers, slam the public/private revolving door for all but necessary technical skills, withhold pensions to all former military who go back to work as civilian employees until they've retired from both (take the sugar out of double dipping). Put the VA on a time line, if a vet's issues have not been properly addressed in so many weeks they get an automatic chit for outside treatment.
Also: remind contractors that affirmative action actually applied to veterans and handicapped before it applied to most favored official minorities.

44 posted on 11/24/2016 2:57:59 PM PST by norton
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To: Redwood71

Understand. To avoid further pissing off already pissed tax slaves, these arrogant, disconnected assholes SHOULD alter the terminology. They haven’t because they don’t care. I suspect — and PRAY — that they soon will!


45 posted on 11/25/2016 7:51:49 AM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 4TH STATE HERE HAS BECOME A 5TH COLUMN. TREASON TRIALS COMING?)
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To: Reily

It’s possible to “not earn your keep” and also not deserve to die in an act of terrorism.

Melodrama doesn’t become you.


46 posted on 11/25/2016 1:10:11 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

You’re right I should leave such inaccuracies to you!


47 posted on 11/25/2016 7:31:07 PM PST by Reily
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To: norton

I noticed you mentioned you were working with a lot of different levels of people. You mentioned a retired O6 that nailed you. If it had been a civilian hired to go into the position out of college that got it based upon his education, would what he did make you feel any different?

There are honest and diligent people in all works of life. We are a product of our history, and learning. Not a product of our pay grade. I’m sorry you ran into dishonest or evil people. I did too. But the difference is that I don’t blame the entire barrel for the two apples that are spoiled. Or picked incorrectly by the pickers, wrong time, wrong apple.

As for the military retirement. I did a job for over 20 years, was blown up once and shot twice, and gave up my body shortening my life by possibly many years, to go into those areas that got shot at as both active and civilian employed. And without my work, and the many that got hurt more than I, our country would not be able to be the most desired living area in the world. And now, due to the punishment I received, I am unable to do the little things you might enjoy like a walk in the neighborhood or trail hiking, because I can’t walk more than about 15 feet without having to use medication and I spend about half the year in the hospital. I have no real life anymore. But that was my choice. And if you feel the money I make which is less than half of what I made in the military, that at that time had parts of that set aside for my retirement, that was so small they tried to justify it with “benefits” that most disappeared upon retirement, is too much, remember my original entry that said that less than 4% of the retired military members made that $100K a year. And I didn’t make that up. That came from the GAO.

I’m not asking for a living. I’m only asking that they do what they said they would do. And it seems every day’s another fight for uncle sugar to come through. But that other 96%, just by stepping forward and being willing to step in front of a bullet, as some did, have earned their first retirement. So please don’t rake everyone into the same trash can. Some deserve it. But many do not. And that’s the opinion I got from entries on this board before I typed. You want to weed out the problem shildren, I hope you get all of them. But don’t harm the others that don’t deserve the wrath by cutting their paycheck they earned while trying to survive on half of their recognized meager paycheck the govermment calls retirement. Like I said, they earned that. And if the government would have stayed consistent with the inflation when it went up 10% and the military got 2% raises. it would be a bill the public, like yourself, would be unhappy with. But if you think it’s high, go talk to the VA hospital patients and ask them what thy’ve got going. It ain’t much.

red


48 posted on 11/26/2016 11:31:22 AM PST by Redwood71
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