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To: bobsunshine

Be careful with this, everybody.

Legionnaires Disease is noncontagious bacterial pneumonia. So are most forms of aspiration pneumonia. So are most healthcare-associated pneumonias (HCAP). So are pneumonias from airway obstruction, as in lung cancer, lymphoma, and certain other cancers with lung metastases.

I don’t know what Dr. Wolf was thinking when he wrote this, but it’s not even close to true.


12 posted on 09/15/2016 6:00:14 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Rise)
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To: Jim Noble

At least one person read your comment and appreciated it.


28 posted on 09/15/2016 6:08:01 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (Democrat mantra: Promise Everything, Deliver Nothing, Blame Others)
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To: Jim Noble
To further explain your claim:

After Legionella grows and multiplies in a building water system, that contaminated water then has to spread in droplets small enough for people to breathe in. People are exposed to Legionella when they breathe in mist (small droplets of water in the air) containing the bacteria. One example might be from breathing in droplets sprayed from a hot tub that has not been properly cleaned and disinfected. Less commonly, Legionella can be spread by aspiration of drinking water, which is when water “goes down the wrong pipe,” into the trachea (windpipe) and lungs instead of down the digestive tract. People at increased risk of aspiration include those with swallowing difficulties. In general, Legionnaires’ disease and Pontiac fever are not spread from one person to another. However, this may be possible in rare cases.

In other words something causes you to get non-contagious Pneumonia it doesn't just spontaneously occur in a healthy person.

35 posted on 09/15/2016 6:12:50 AM PDT by baxtelf
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To: Jim Noble

Pneumonia is a condition brought on by an infection in the lungs. It seems there are plenty of people that think you can “catch” it and I’m surprised so many FReepers are ignorant of the causes.


46 posted on 09/15/2016 6:15:35 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Jim Noble

+1


48 posted on 09/15/2016 6:15:48 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Jim Noble

I am not a doctor, from the description given by Bardack and credible references (john hopkins, mayo, CDC) it’s probably aspiration pneumonia.


49 posted on 09/15/2016 6:16:36 AM PDT by Ray76 (Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!)
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To: Jim Noble

The A in HCAP actually is ACQUIRED not assisted.

Are you suggesting that Hillary has been exposed to legionella? And while it is not transmitted person to person it can be rosolized....that is what happened at several hotels with large outbreaks.pneumonias are always about fluid in the lungs..... Aspiration is material that gets caught in airways....not bacterial at all.......secondary pneumonias that are the result of other more severe diseases are not typically referred to in that way. Usually the patient is identified with a primary giagnostic....oh and by the way....


68 posted on 09/15/2016 6:28:18 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Jim Noble

> Be careful with this, everybody.

Yes. Absolutely.


72 posted on 09/15/2016 6:31:41 AM PDT by Ray76 (Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!)
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To: Jim Noble
New England Journal of Medicine

Probable Person-to-Person Transmission of Legionnaires’ Disease

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc1505356

75 posted on 09/15/2016 6:33:52 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Jim Noble
Be careful with this, everybody. Legionnaires Disease is noncontagious bacterial pneumonia. So are most forms of aspiration pneumonia.

Well, it was reported that other people in her campaign staff also had it, so (if they could be telling truth) aspiration pneumonia would be ruled out. That is, barring some uniquely weird activity like a group hurl during a yoga routine.

96 posted on 09/15/2016 7:09:06 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: Jim Noble

See my previous post above. Dr. Wolf is allowing his agenda to conflict with his objectivity.


106 posted on 09/15/2016 7:23:00 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: Jim Noble

Precisely.

We need to stop jumping on everything with our heads up our butts.

We just look stupid. Then everyone knows not to listen to us.

At least pick apart something that truly doesn’t jibe...such as, why does she seem like something more than pneumonia has been going on a long, long time? Chronic, rather than acute?


107 posted on 09/15/2016 7:23:04 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Jim Noble

Thank you and BTTT


110 posted on 09/15/2016 7:29:53 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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