Posted on 08/25/2016 7:51:18 AM PDT by bananaman22
Weve gone electric, and theres no going back at this point. Lithium is our new fuel, but like fossil fuels, the reserves were currently tapping into are finiteand thats what investors can take to the bank.
You may think lithium got too popular too fast. You may suspect electric vehicles are too much buzz and not enough real future. You may, in short, be a lithium skeptic, one of many. And yet, despite this skepticism, lithium demand is rising steadily and sharply, and indications that a shortage may be looming are very real.
It wont be a shortage in terms of peak lithium; rather, it will be a game of catch-up with the electric car boom, with miners hustling to explore and tap into new reserves.
(Excerpt) Read more at oilprice.com ...
Peak lithium.
I used to work for a magnesium plant in Rowley, UT. They solar evaporated the water in the Great Salt Lake and extracted magnesium chloride. One of the byproducts was a huge amount of lithium chloride brine, which at the time had no use. Google a satellite view of the plant to see how “helpful” it is to the environment.
Teslas have been booming for some time.
Whatever, guys like you make comments like this just to get peoples goat.
“Why, did the Clinton Foundation strike a deal with the government of Bolivia, a country with HUGE deposits of lithium-yielding soil and rocks?”
Then there’s our continued presence in Afghanistan, a Stone Age country we’re pouring our nation’s blood and treasure into. There’s hundred’s of billions of dollars worth of Lithium and other rare earth metal deposits there. Add in all the gold, silver, and copper and Afghanistan has TRILLIONS of dollars of mineral deposits which will at some point be one of the earth’s largest and most profitable mining destinations.
Battery tech wont be competitive unless a battery pack can hold the equivalent of 30~40% of the energy contained in 16 gallons of gasoline.
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The top of the line Tesla is a large car and will soon have a range over 300 miles. Is that good enough?
Internal combustion cars have been catching fire for decades at a higher rate than electric cars.
Excellent! I can easily see libtard’s heads exploding after looking at that comparison.
1. Good luck putting in the hydrogen fueling infrastructure.
2. The "exhaust" from a fuel cell is water vapor, perhaps the most potent greenhouse gas out there (much more so than carbon dioxide). Can you imagine what would happen to a city when you have millions of cars spewing out water vapor?
Don’t worry here is the answer.
https://drive.google.com/file/ d/ 0B0KtnWtajUVwcEtabVZlaDhTMW8/ view
How many people have an electric car? 1 in 10,000 maybe?
And they are already approaching a shortage of deadly lithium. And the batteries in the current cars have to be replaced maybe 5 years down the line.
Just Brilliant.
I assume also that RayChuang88 is being facetious. It is hard not to be when discussing anything relating to the massive global warming fraud currently being perpetuated.
The problem that I have with fuel cells is that even after who knows how many billions of dollars that have been spent over the last twenty or so years, there is still nothing on the market that is marketable to your average consumer. Fuel cells are in theory very scalable. So I am not just talking cars; I mean for replacement of batteries in other applications as well. When could reasonably conclude that with the massive amount of research taxpayers by now should be receiving some sort of benefit... but just like so many other pie in the sky concepts we are always “two or three” years away from some type of break through. So at this point I have become highly skeptical of any technology that is hyped only in journals that are highly subsidized by a highly subsidized research organizations.
If you look for fuel cells on Amazon you won’t find anything other than a few science fair kits and a cell phone battery charger. By the time you buy all the pieces you need to actually use the “charger” it will cost you hundreds of dollars to get something that is far less functional than a lithium ion based cell phone charger that costs less than $20. And this is approximately the same situation currently with other fuel cell powered products currently available to consumers. It is almost all hype.
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Petroleum combustion “spews out” water vapor along with carbon dioxide and small quantities of other chemical side products.
Ammonia (hydrogen and nitrogen compound) can also be “reformed” on demand; and, the resultant liberated hydrogen feed a fuel cell. The ammonia as a relatively low pressure liquid (like propane), or as a gas adsorbed into a magnesium chloride storage cell, allows more dense storage than hydrogen, either as liquid or gas form.
Hydrogen does have all the issues of a gasoline powered inboard boat pulled from storage—really should operate a compartment fan in a purge-cycle before starting is attempted. Hydrogen will migrate through all materials and can be explosive from 3% to 90% mixtures.
More humidity and rain.
Water vapor is also a combustion product of gasoline, diesel,methane, propane. Most any fuel.
Obviously you have drunk the global warming koolade.
http://www.plugpower.com/customer/whos-using-gendrive/
There seems to be no FINITE amount of Oil that I can see!
While it's obvious that air will be way cleaner (since we're not spewing out carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, unburned hydrocarbons and particulates), we want to make sure several million cars spewing out pure water vapor in an urban area doesn't create unintended local climate effects.
Quit trying to cheer me up.
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