[righttackle44]

Depends on your definition of hero. For me, Andrew Jackson will never be a hero. He is simply another piece of trash in American history. His Indian Removal program resulted in the deaths and suffering of thousands of Indian people, many of them women and children. He humiliated the men when he decreed many of them, without ever knowing them, should be removed in leg irons, and then he charged them for the irons.

Muhammad Ali was a hero to some. His efforts in supporting the Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center at the Barrow Neurological Institute in Phoenix brought 10s of 1,000s to Phoenix for treatment in what is probably the best Parkinson's Disease treatment center in North America.

So maybe we didn't appreciate his draft dodging. Many have been treated for this horrid disease simply because they found out about the center because he allowed the use of his name. He supported the center, and many came because of his name.

Perhaps some here hate him because he was black. Perhaps some here know someone who has been helped in their suffering from Parkinson's because of Muhammad Ali.

[Bogie]

Good point. It wasn't that the military need the manpower that badly. He was supposed to be like Elvis and would have had a great job anyhow. The question was, that kind of influence was he having on other people?

Turns out that the fight was against a disease.