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To: BigBobber

“Donald is rich.” That’s a popular one.
“Donald has a beautiful wife”. OK
“Donald is filling stadiums”. About as relevant as the first two in determining whether Donald is a limited government conservative at the core.

If Donald was my candidate I would try to deflect the conversation to trivialities as well.

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1. I was addressing specifically the point the poster made about filling stadiums. It was not about Trump. Can you read?

2. I have heard Trump talk, over a period of about thirty years, about various subjects, such as trade agreements, American decline. He has not changed his talk at all. There is a Oprah interview of him made in 1988 on You Tube. You can check that out. Except for his youthful appearance, he could have made that talk yesterday.

3. “Donald is rich” is not used as a qualification for the presidency that I have ever seen on this site.

4. Same goes for his beautiful wife.

5. Trump’s ability to fill stadiums is a key factor to notice, since Cruz cannot. He has been credited with record voter turn out this election cycle.

6. Cruz’s voting records and position stances show him to be a globalist. There is nothing in TPA that limits government. There is nothing conservative in voting for the Corker bill. There is nothing conservative in calling for a 500% increase in H1-B visas, for calling for an increase in immigration, for saying that our immigration system is broken, etc.

7. All in all, you are the one deflecting the conversation. Maybe you can explain to us all why Cruz refuses to release his U.S. citizenship verification documents. As the expression has it, when you are trying to hide something, you have something to hide.

8. Now we can all wait for you to respond, by way of answer, with another attack on Trump supporters.


208 posted on 04/16/2016 9:15:23 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

I gotta run so I will make a brief reply and perhaps we can discuss more later.

To your point 3. Trump’s “wealth defense” has been used over and over when FReepers respond to me after questioning his conservative bona fides.

Your point 4. There have been countless attacks on Cruz’s looks, his eyes, the way he talks, his wife’s looks, his children, and Carly Fiorina’s looks, as well. Go back through the threads and see how many times Trump supporters post Photoshopped images of Cruz and his family to make them look ridiculous. They post glamour shots of Trumps wife and families. It’s trivialities when we’re discussing the future of the free world.

Filling stadiums is not as important is winning votes. At just over one third of votes cast, Trump is not exactly tearing it up so far.

Support for free trade doesn’t define someone as a globalist. Many conservatives support free trade. Import tariffs are almost always used to protect crony insiders from competition. Trump is part of that insider system.

Cruz’s attempt to derail the Corker bill with a poison pill is well documented. It didn’t work, but you can’t blame Cruz for trying. Do you doubt Cruz will tear up the Iran agreement if he becomes president?

Cruz’s edibility to run for President has been confirmed by several courts already. Again, it’s a diversion used to deflect from Cruz’s positions vs. Trumps. Do you doubt Cruz holds American values? I’m more concerned about Trump’s statements that he identifies as a Democrat than that Cruz is somehow a closet Canadian. Sheesh.


283 posted on 04/16/2016 10:04:14 AM PDT by BigBobber
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