It is DISGUSTING that Cruz is using machinations, to scoop up delegates which Trump rightfully should have.
Disgusting.
Yeah, following the rules is cheating.
Rightfully should have?
You want a king?
Yes, but Trump is a street fighter and should have know better
Presidential politics involves multiple skill sets. So does the presidency. Ted Cruz is proving adept and adaptable. Trump, not so much.
Trump supporters wanted a candidate with no political experience. Essentially they want to hire the most inexperienced person they can find for the most important job of all time. Cruz is working the system cause he knows how it works, just like Trump worked the bankruptcy laws. Trump supporters are getting what they want, what’s the problem?
Sorry, but the incompetent Trump organization should have organized Colorado Republican Trump supporters to actually SHOW UP AT THE COLORADO CONVENTIONS TO SUPPORT TRUMP. They were eligible to do that just as Cruz supporters were eligible. So don’t blame Trump supporters (who defeated GOPe types to be delegates — doing THAT work that benefits both Cruz & Trump) for their successes; blame the “sick, lame & lazy” Trump staffers for their ineptness & their neglect.
I know. Trump should get his lawyers on this. There’s gotta be someone they can sue.
Pretty sure Trump uses every advantage he can in business...and you would applaud him for it.
But, as he threatened to sue Ted Cruz a few months ago and Cruz publicly called him on it and Trump folded in silence, I doubt Trump would sue here as you insist, for his attorneys will tell him Cruz operated perfectly within PARTY RULES set set in advance and made clear, and OTOH Donald failed to build an infrastructure on the ground in Colorado to turn out people for his cause--the real name of the game--which Cruz has done resoundingly tonight in the Rockies.
What claim, exactly, does Trump have on any Colorado delegates?
Evidently, he made no effort to earn any Colorado delegates. Is there any reason they should've "rightfully" fallen at his feet and pledged obeisance?
Seriously?? There is currently another thread up that gives some details of the way it went down that perhaps you should read. The Cruz campaign put a team together over several months to work to bring in these type of delegates but Team Trump was late to the party, then fired their state organizer a week or so ago, and then screwed up the slate of delegate candidates they submitted!
This process is nothing new, although Trump wants everyone to think it is, and that it is totally unfair to his millions of supporters that he has to continue to fight for the nomination per his latest tweet.
What I find disappointing is that one of the main themes in America is that the little guy has to follow the “rules” while those with money and power do not, and Trump’s constant complaining about the rules is evidence that in his case he is proof positive that rules are only for the little people, but his supporters not only buy into sales pitch but add fuel to his fire keep fighting the establishment.
Political parties in general, and their government by National Conventions, are not representative organizations.
I’m old enough to remember when there were no primaries. The current state is bad, because it creates an illusion of “electing” a nominee, without rules for defining electors (WHO gets to vote, and under what circumstances).
The result is a hodgepodge of semi-elections happening at different times under different rules, and no organization (and both parties are, still, at least loosely organized) can tolerate being bound by the results of such a mess.
The best available short-term solution would be to restore the 2/3 rule, which both parties had up to 1968. Under this system, you could not have “winners” with 60% of the voters opposed to them. Neither McCain nor Romney could have been nominated by a 2/3 rule.
Excerpt from George Washington's Farewell Address in 1796.
All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.
However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion. I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.
This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.
Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.
It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.
There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the government and serve to keep alive the spirit of liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.