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Donald Trump can’t keep his H-1B/H-2B immigration lies straight any more
RedState ^ | March 4th, 2016 | Moe Lane

Posted on 03/04/2016 8:32:02 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

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To: ConservingFreedom

I back whoever gets to 1237 delegates first.

Cruz could pick up western states like AR and CA if Trump continues to retreat on his positions.


21 posted on 03/04/2016 8:56:33 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: ConservingFreedom
There's no "cleaning up" after The Mouth That Roared without misleading. '"""".....

OH YEAH!!!! well for your information we are rearranging the Musical Excuse chairs at this very moment. We just can't remember which excuse goes in which chair.../s

Meanwhile on the good ship Trumptianic:

Hey YUGY....hurry up before Don speaks again, will someone shut him up we are exhausted just trying to keep up with his flips, we're running out of excuse chairs./s

22 posted on 03/04/2016 8:59:27 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Now some of his supporters are beginning to sound like spouses who can’t believe their mate would cheat on them...


23 posted on 03/04/2016 9:03:16 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Trump to McCain - "Pass the strawberries".)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Carry on with these useless threads, they only serve to accomplish what the DC crooks want...maybe that's what some poster are here to promote as well.

There was an article posted yesterday or the day before by some pundit who said Trump was going to win, and so it is our job to "support him and make him the best candidate he can be." I'm someone who may abstain rather than pull the lever for him in November, but the last part of that really made me think.

I think Trump's a guy who hasn't given all that much thought to actual policy in most cases. He's just kind of going by his gut. So I think in many cases, he's an incomplete candidate. It's why he waffles on so many issues.

So maybe part of our job is to beat the hell out of him on issues where he is wrong so as to make him the best candidate he can be. Maybe if those of us who don't like him keep fighting on these points, he'll come around on some of it so that he actually will be a candidate we can support in November.

He's good enough on his feet that I think he'll be able to defend the evolutions in his positions against Hillary's accusations. But I would really like to see him evolve to being right on more of the issues where he is currently wrong.

24 posted on 03/04/2016 9:03:25 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: ConservingFreedom
Trump gave the right answer on H-2B visas.

The south Florida "snowbird Season" is from October to March. It's not just Trump's hotel, but ALL the hotels along the Treasure Coast region of South Florida, that are drawing on the local population for low-skilled seasonal temporary labor. Also, that area is heavily populated with retirees, so hospitality labor is not abundant for the ramp-up.

-PJ

25 posted on 03/04/2016 9:05:09 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

This is an important discussion.

Most politicians who have tried to campaign on *illegal* immigration have tried to take the sting out of it by promoting themselves as highly in favor of expanded *legal* immigration. I see a lot of the political talk about H1b in that light. They don’t want to be accused of being anti-immigrant, so they talk about making it easier to immigrate and they talk about bringing in the best and the brightest via H1b.

The problem with that is that half the country is out of work. And the problem is that companies are using H1b quite openly to replace American workers. Immigration policy should serve the interests of citizens... and it almost never has.

At the beginning Cruz was too easy on H1b, and that was one of the things I had against him. He has since tightened up his policy and his current policy is pretty good.

Trump’s strong selling point has been his position on the border, but his stance on H1b is weak. He needs to clarify it and tighten it up. I understand what he is saying, he wants to keep people with advanced degrees who are studying in US universities, but that isn’t how the program has been used in the past. I have worked with a lot of H1b’s in the past, most of them good people, but I know how you get around the requirement to hire Americans first.

We need to have this discussion and Trump has do what Cruz has had to do, which is to tighten up his policy in the light of how it is used in real life. I would like to hear both of them talking about this very issue more. No, Silicon Valley doesn’t need to expand the use of H1b’s when there are Americans who would love to take those jobs.


26 posted on 03/04/2016 9:07:14 AM PST by marron
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To: Political Junkie Too
The south Florida "snowbird Season" is from October to March. It's not just Trump's hotel, but ALL the hotels along the Treasure Coast region of South Florida, that are drawing on the local population for low-skilled seasonal temporary labor.

And there's an inalienable natural right to cheap snowbirding? It's vital to our national defense or something?

27 posted on 03/04/2016 9:08:32 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I think Trump's a guy who hasn't given all that much thought to actual policy in most cases. He's just kind of going by his gut. So I think in many cases, he's an incomplete candidate. It's why he waffles on so many issues.

I think that is a completely fair analysis.

I also think Trump would surround himself with the best minds and advisors.....and he will listen.

What amazes me are the forces that are lining up against him, virtually from every direction.

Some powerful people are scared to death he will dismantle their CON GAME.

Since my goal is to see DC utterly destroyed, I can't help but like Trump even more.

28 posted on 03/04/2016 9:14:32 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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29 posted on 03/04/2016 9:15:17 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: ConservingFreedom
I don't understand your question. It's not about cheap hospitality labor, it's about not enough local hospitality labor to go around.

-PJ

30 posted on 03/04/2016 9:16:59 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Con Artist. Liar. Phony. A sham.


31 posted on 03/04/2016 9:18:56 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR becoming non compos mentis Cult of Trump. Thus: sadly & rapidly outliving its usefulness to me.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

I’m curious to know what he told the New York Times editorial board about this. Is anybody else?


32 posted on 03/04/2016 9:19:11 AM PST by 1638G
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To: RaceBannon

I like it when Cruz talks about what he wants to do, and will do, instead of twisting the facts. That makes him look like a politician.

They ALL are doing it now.

it’s also a BAD optic to “Team UP” with Rubio to bash Trump.

You can’t out mud-wrestle a pig.


33 posted on 03/04/2016 9:21:00 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: jospehm20

I want to agree with you on this. Why don’t people read the positions on the web sites.

There is nothing wrong with the H1B visa program except for the low wages paid to people who are “captive” by the visa. If the companies are forced to pay the prevailing wage, problem is solved.


34 posted on 03/04/2016 9:21:29 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer (ret) and ex-teacher (ret) now part time Professor (what do you know?))
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To: KC_for_Freedom
There is nothing wrong with the H1B visa program except for the low wages paid to people who are “captive” by the visa. If the companies are forced to pay the prevailing wage, problem is solved.

There is no controlling legal authority. Nobody administers it. It is corrupt stem to stern. It needs to die.

35 posted on 03/04/2016 9:23:19 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RaceBannon
After the fleeting, surrealistic orgasmic love affair with Trump is over, and millions of conservatives' hopes are dashed via his betrayal with a core or core issues, why you will likely once again see FR come back home and to their senses--and 98% -Conservative-Voting-Record Sen. Ted Cruz will once again be quite persona grata over here on this forum, as he has been for years.
36 posted on 03/04/2016 9:25:57 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR becoming non compos mentis Cult of Trump. Thus: sadly & rapidly outliving its usefulness to me.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Another post from comedy central.


37 posted on 03/04/2016 10:01:42 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Donald Trump has been pretty clear for months about his immigration stance. I think he did get a little rattled last night from the constant three prong onslaught. But Luz and Amnestio were also confused. Trump cleared up the confusion today. It pretty much jives with what he had said all along.


38 posted on 03/04/2016 10:15:42 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ConservingFreedom; GodGunsGuts; Cincinatus' Wife; campaignPete R-CT; BillyBoy; Impy; ...
“KELLY: So you abandoning the position on your website…
TRUMP: … I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position because we have to have talented people in this country.”

I recall more than a few freepers who claimed that they supported Trump over Cruz because Trump was against these visas and Cruz was for them.

But as many Trumpeters say: ‘It worked, that's all that counts. He is winning.’

This is NOTHING compared to the reversals that are coming.

39 posted on 03/04/2016 10:18:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (Trumpetir :"He could go on a shooting spree this MF downtown and I would still worship him"')
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To: jospehm20
Already the law.

Requirement 4 - You must be paid at least the actual or prevailing wage for your occupation, whichever is higher.

The prevailing wage is determined based on the position in which you will be employed and the geographic location where you will be working (among other factors).

The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) maintains a database with applicable current prevailing wage levels based on occupation and work location.

40 posted on 03/04/2016 10:28:38 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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