“We were set up…they had an ambush set up for us"

http://www.roseburgbeacon.com/ ^ | Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 5:24PM | David Jacques

[pilgrim]

[blueunicorn6]

The Democrat leaders rule by fear.

They frighten their voters by telling them that they will starve if they don’t vote for the Democrat leaders.

They frighten Republican leaders with threats of having their Democrat voters riot.

They use fear because they know how effective it is.

Because they themselves are scared to death.

So if you show up with weapons, you are telling the Democrat leaders that you aren’t afraid of them.

That really frightens them so they strike out in fear.

The Democrats will kill you if they really fear you.

Man, woman, child.....it doesn’t matter.

They are afraid and they want the fear to stop.

If they have to kill you, well, so what?

You made them scared and that makes you evil.

[pilgrim]

[LucyT]

"We were set up…they had an ambush set up for us"

[pilgrim]

[M Kehoe]

Bttt.

5.56mm

[doc maverick]

Obama’s Muzzie Brohood fed gestapo murdered a Christian Oregonian and attempted to murder others including females, threw people back in prison who had already served time for burning brush and they WILL keep this up. Any citizens who demonstrate against the Feds are fair game according to the dictator running the government especially if they are Christian and own guns.

The democrats have destroyed our state.
They did it for money and votes.
Fu(k ‘em.

[Smokin' Joe]

Hundreds of government documents were compiled by those at the refuge. Many of the documents exposed abusive actions by federal government officials, Judge Grasty, Harney County Sheriff’s Department and direct abuses to the Hammond family.

I sincerely hope those documents have been scanned and archived in multiple locations.

People will never understand the magnitude of the problem until they can see the pattern of abuse--not just isolated incidents, but pervasive behaviour.

[Eagles6]

Do you have info on where they are?

[Smokin' Joe]

They don't want to know.

Look at the tactics used below. Any rancher in the West will find them familiar:

From Trump Winery

Trump bought the 1,300-acre vineyard and winery for a fraction of its original value. He was criticized for his unethical behavior during this acquisition. He began by buying the 200 acres surrounding the property for less than $500,000. He then placed "No Trespassing" signs around the property. This warded off potential buyers and gave Trump exclusive access to the property. This forced the property into foreclosure and gave Trump the opportunity to buy the land from Bank of America for $3.6 million, a small fraction of the property's real worth ($12M).[6] Development and renovation of the property was given to Eric Trump, who also supervised the acquisition.

[Pajamajan]

"the US government is very afraid of the people and are acting accordingly"

That's my impression from reading this article too.

[Smokin' Joe]

Actually, I would not have voted for Christie before, nor the guy he is brown nosing. So I don't care, in a sense, because it will not affect my decision in the future.

Trump could fry live kittens in Times Square and few of his supporters would care.

[Smokin' Joe]

One problem, Gordon Kahl happened under Reagan's watch, Ruby Ridge happened under GHWB's watch, and Waco under Clinton. It isn't just the Democrats who bag a few, but almost never the socialist or racist left. (MOVE was an exception).

[WildHighlander57]

Where and when are the rallies??

[blueunicorn6]

“Almost never the socialist or racist left”

Well, if you exclude those socialist picnics in the Ukraine and in China and in The Killing Fields.

What’s that.....60 million dead human beings “saved” by the socialists?

[higgmeister]

How can you surround 1,300-acres with 200 acres? The whole idea stinks so I checked further.

As Ms. Kluge's empire collapsed, Mr. Trump bought. Over the past six months, he swooped in and picked up many of the pieces of her palatial Virginia estate and winery. He bought the 1,000-acre vineyard and winery for a fraction of their original value. He bought 200 acres nearby for less than $500,000, with help from Ms. Kluge and her son.

So the plot thickens.

Mr. Trump, however, had quietly cut a side deal that would frustrate the bank's plans. He and the Kluges had been friends for more than 30 years. When Ms. Kluge ran out of money, she came to Mr. Trump's office asking for a rescue.

So, Donald Trump to the rescue!

Before the February foreclosure, Mr. Trump paid $500,000 for about 200 acres around the house. The property included most of the front yard, most of the driveway and a large chunk of the back yard.

And now the coup de grâce.

Mr. Trump's son Eric is now running the vineyard with assistance from Ms. Kluge. In a statement, Ms. Kluge said she is "thrilled at having a second chance to fulfill my dream."

It is all here in the Wall Street Journal link. They try to make a hit piece but it really is a story about Donald Trump the knight in shining armor that helps a friend in need. And it was obviously a lie that Trump forced the property into foreclosure.

The seller of the 200 acres was a Kluge-family trust created for John Kluge II, John's son.

The Fall of the House of Kluge Leads to the Rise of the Yard of Trump

[azkathy]

The biggest THANK YOU ever!!!

[Smokin' Joe]

The big trick is to control access.Just like the BLM does out west, they shut down the access to water on ranch land, even deeded water rights. Then the land can't be used for grazing, 'cause cattle die without water.

!300 acres is 36 acres by 37 acres in a nearly square parcel, easily surrounded by a 1 acre wide strip with a mere 150 acres. that leaves 50 acres extra.

You are free to take it up with the source: here

[pilgrim]

You are welcome!!!

Thanks for the opportunity!!

[Smokin' Joe]

The statement was "It isn't just the Democrats who bag a few, but almost never the socialist or racist left."

In the United States, the victims of government action are seldom from groups like "Occupy" the "Weathermen" or "Black Lives Matter". Those groups get a pass. The victims of government action are generally either individuals resisting totalitarianism, or folks from the religious Right, up to and including caucasian racists.

I thought the Reference to the Democrats would be clue enough that I was referring to the abuses of power by the US Government, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough.

Elsewhere, as I believe we will find out here, too, Governments only kill those who either fail in their assigned duties or oppose the government in any way, especially by desiring the rights and freedom we used to freely enjoy here.

I take little solace in the thought that America will be the last to fold, but we are well on our way.