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To: refreshed
Trump is getting millions of democrats to switch over because of this. He's demonstrating that he's not anti-women, in fact, he's pro-woman.

You can like it or not, I don't particularly, but I know WHY he's doing it - it's politics, and it's going to win him millions of votes.

But if you think it means he likes abortion, he's made it clear he doesn't.

You can really only criticize him for this if you think his saying this will result in MORE murdered kids than if he didn't say it. I don't think so.

Abortion will only cease to be a reality in this country when there is a broad cultural change/awakening -> part of that is getting out the propagandists who praise abortion and allowing Americans to simply reflect on what it actually is, but other than that, it's not going to be government that ends it.

So if it gets him elected, and he's anti-abortion and allows for the conversation to become real rather than a political debate which divorces democrats from their responsibility to look at themselves, and what it actually is, it's not killing babies, and it may be saving them.

Feel free to criticize me on that, so long as you keep it rational. I care about what works, not being right, regarding this election, and the same goes for abortion. Trump dumping on Planned Parenthood is not going to help him govern or get him any more votes than he's already getting. They're too easy (and legitimately easy) a target, it's not going to save lives, so he might as well use it to get crossover women voters.

Again, take me to task on that if you like. But can you really say that in saying what he said, he has cost lives? Caused more abortions? Just because a democrat says 'well maybe he's not so bad', does that make him bad? Because that's what he's doing.

Whether Trump is a good or bad man, his style is to do what works to make things right (again - you can argue that his version of 'right' is totally wrong - I'm only talking here about how he operates to get what HE thinks is right, and hence why he keeps praising everything-they-do-except-abortion), rather than to do what would appear to make him look right.

This strategy has gotten him where he's at, and it's already done a ton ... I repeat a TON ... of good for America, even if he drops out tomorrow.

46 posted on 02/25/2016 9:16:18 PM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: tinyowl

Thank you tinyowl. There is a lot to chew on there.


56 posted on 02/25/2016 9:24:20 PM PST by refreshed
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To: tinyowl
A short follow up.

It's one thing to get 'words mean things'

It's an entirely other thing to get 'words are actions'

If you get the second, then you get Trump's success so far. But if you stop at meaning, you miss the actual impact they have.

When Trump talks about 'negotiating' ... he's not talking about finding the perfect mix of two things that add up to be 100% - both parties taking x portion of the 100%. He's talking about shifting what's on the table, or shifting perceptions of what's on the table.

Right now, the reason abortion has so much support is that it's not seen for what it is. That's the only thing that matters. Trashing Planned Parenthood doesn't shift the conversation at all. However, disrupting the Dem talking point that 'Conversavatives are against abortion equals Conservatives are against women and choice and reproductive FREEDOM' ... that changes the nature of the conversation. No ARGUMENT is going to stop abortion, the dems just dig their heals in and start killing MORE bablies - they make it fashonable - a badge of pride. Same reason everyone thinks they are gay or bi now. You have to let them reflect, let the country reflect, withdraw all government support for it, undermine the propaganda. But attacking it has gotten us where we are.

So I would argue that those most adamant about cursing people to hell for not realizing how evil it is, are helping to keep it in place. Have you ever heard the saying "Resistance Creates Persistence"? ... I hate cliche's, but sometimes, they fit.

58 posted on 02/25/2016 9:25:29 PM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: tinyowl

Trump is getting millions of democrats to switch over because of this.

He's demonstrating that he's not anti-women, in fact, he's pro-woman.

.....it's politics, and it's going to win him millions of votes.

Agree totally.

For a political forum, a lot of people here don't understand politics.

107 posted on 02/26/2016 1:09:27 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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