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To: spintreebob

Your immigration post can be read two ways.
Either win over Hispanic voters because demographics is important.

Or Ethnic cleansing of Hispanics because demographics is important.

Contrary to demographics,
- some claim that friendliness, empathy are more important.
- some claim that issues, values are more important.

Of course, there are many factors in a complex situation. But how is demographics the most important?
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All the above is true, but our politicians r charged with the protection and prosperity of Americans, and any immigrant that is allowed here should have something to offer of benefit America. Right now we are just the dumping ground, for failed Latin American Govs.

Most immigrants come here with no understanding of Americanism, they tend to be desperate, uneducated needing handouts to survive, and have little hope ever getting out of that government dependent demographic. Vast majority of these and their future generations will always vote for collectivist politicians. So build a wall, allow time for assimilation (Americanism), and then follow immigration laws which protect life, property, and jobs of citizens.

Secondly, Trade deals have lead to Globalization of manufacturing and cheap labor, resulting in a loss of living wage here in America where companies are faced with over burdensome regs and social safety nets, combined with a Fed mandate and Gov. baseline budgeting policy of constant increase in inflation. So Higher cost of living because caused by Gov, stagnant wages caused by Gov.. Creating permanent generational class of collectivist voters. While at the same time flooding the country with unskilled cheap labor, suppressing wages even more.

We have to create policies, which bring back living wages. How? (Gonna sound like a Dem) By bashing these job killing trade deals, which are no more than corporate welfare at the expense of citizens. And providing real jobs, not MceeDees, but manufacturing jobs people can support their families. Is that even possible? Thats a tall mountain to climb.


62 posted on 02/19/2016 1:00:36 PM PST by QuigleyDU
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To: QuigleyDU

1. Most immigrants are not on welfare. They work. Mexican immigrants, Indian immigrants, Chinese immigrants, European immigrants all start new job creating businesses at a higher rate than natural born citizens.

2. Immigrants of Mexican ancestry who are eligible for welfare have a lower rate of collecting welfare than other natural born citizens. The navigators are tearing their hair out because those underserved groups are not taking advantage of the opportunities open to them. For example, Georgia uninsured percent is higher than the national average. Most of those uninsured do not need Medicaid Expansion. They already qualify for Medicaid without Expanson. and Most of them are of Hispanic ancestry. The pro-Obamacare types dont want to admit this they are pushing for Medicaid Expansion to reach those uninsured.

3. No immigrant, no legal immigrant, no illegal immigrant, no naturalized citizen should come here to collect welfare. They should be deported immediately upon applying for welfare.

4. Alleged Free Trade is false advertising. Reagan proposed real NAFTA Free Trade. Then congress, lobbyists, HW Bush, Clinton, Canadians, Mexicans, everyone loaded it up with regulations. The only Free Trade left was in the name.

5. Treasury Secrtary Rubin interfered in the Mexican monetary systm (for their own good). That had much bigger impact on our relations than NAFTA. Rubin sent all the maquiladora jobs to Asia. In turn the decline of jobs in Mexico resulted in that massive migration of Mexicans to the US. NAFTA impact was peanuts compared to Clintons Treasury Secrtary meddling in Mexican government.


66 posted on 02/19/2016 2:23:59 PM PST by spintreebob
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