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First Amendment Expert: Trump’s Defamation Case Against Cruz ‘Ridiculous, Absurd, Laughable’
Law Newz by Dan Abrams ^ | February 17, 2016 | Rachel Stockman

Posted on 02/17/2016 3:39:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

When Donald Trump threatened to sue Ted Cruz over his eligibility for the presidency, many legal scholars believed, he, at the very least, had a legal argument. Maybe not a good one, but "natural born" has never been defined by the U.S. Supreme Court so there was something to go on. However, Donald Trump's latest threat to file a defamation lawsuit against Ted Cruz over his political ads appears to be entirely without any legal basis whatsoever. Cruz said Wednesday that Trump's attorneys sent him a cease and desist order threatening "to seek immediate legal action to prevent the broadcast of this ad." Cruz even quipped that any lawsuit would result in Trump being sanctioned by a judge for filing a frivolous lawsuit. He's not far off. Trump's legal claim here is beyond a stretch of the imagination for many reasons.

Floyd Abrams, the well-known First Amendment attorney (also the father of LawNewz.com's founder Dan Abrams) tells LawNewz:

"Mr. Trump's threatened lawsuit against Senator Cruz is ridiculous, absurd, laughable. Senator Cruz's speech is First Amendment protected as his opinion based upon the very tape contained in the advertisement. It is First Amendment protected since there is no conceivable way Mr. Trump can prove it was prepared with actual malice--i.e., actual knowledge of falsity or with serious doubts as to truth or falsity,"

Defamation lawsuits are particularly hard to win when filed about public officials or people who otherwise well known- because as Mr. Abrams pointed out - Trump would have to prove what is called "actual malice" or basically knowledge of falsity. Not to bore you, but that legal standard drives from the landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision New York Times v. Sullivan. The case involved a full-page ad in the New York Times soliciting funds following the arrest of Martin Luther King Jr. for perjury. The court found that the First Amendment protects the publication of all statements -- even false ones- when it relates to the conduct of public officials. The only exception is if the plaintiff can prove actual malice (aka that the person knew or should have known the statements were false). That's a steep hill to climb. If we look at Cruz's ad (see below), while it may very well be taking Trump's words out of context, they are still his words. Trump said them.

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"It is protected because no court would permit one candidate for the presidency to prevail against another for a political attack voiced mid-campaign against another in virtually any circumstance, let alone one rooted in a statement actually made by the suing candidate," Abrams said.

Ted Cruz read aloud Trump's threat letter and fired back at an afternoon press conference.

"To Mr. Trump, you have been threatening frivolous lawsuits for your entire adult lawsuits, even in the annals of frivolous lawsuits, this takes the cake," Cruz said.

But, as we documented on Tuesday, Donald Trump is no novice on the courtroom docket, he's been named in at least 169 different federal lawsuits (that's not counting all of the cases likely filed in state courts across the country). So, Trump may file the lawsuit, and it would almost certainly be thrown out.

Here is the video from the Cruz's press conference:

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: cruz; lawsuit; tedcruz; trump
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1 posted on 02/17/2016 3:39:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course it is. Donald is full of it.


2 posted on 02/17/2016 3:42:30 PM PST by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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To: Qwackertoo

Donald Chump and his mind numbed drones deserve each other.


3 posted on 02/17/2016 3:46:17 PM PST by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Qwackertoo

The fact that Trump threatens to file the suit only IF Cruz doesn’t pull his ads tells you everything you need to know about Trump. If he REALLY thought Cruz wasn’t eligible, he’d file no matter what the circumstances, obviously.

This is using the threat of a frivolous lawsuit as a weapon. I thought conservatives OPPOSED frivolous lawsuits.


4 posted on 02/17/2016 3:46:57 PM PST by Hilda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t wait for Trump to file, he is gonna enjoy discovery!


5 posted on 02/17/2016 3:48:03 PM PST by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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To: Hilda
Of course it is

Thay was never the point

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Trump gets to say out loud its not true for free and gets to throw in Cruz is a Canadian and Rubio also called him a liar for free.

6 posted on 02/17/2016 3:49:28 PM PST by scooby321
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To: GraceG

And as Mark Levin just pointed out, being deposed by Cruz himself.


7 posted on 02/17/2016 3:50:23 PM PST by madmominct
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not defamation if he’s repeating what Trump already said on National television and to point out actual donations that Trump has given. So I agree, it is laughable.


8 posted on 02/17/2016 3:50:53 PM PST by Durbin
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To: Qwackertoo
Of course it is. Donald is full of it.

Trump reminds me of Paul Lazzaro, a character from Slaughterhouse-5. Funny stuff.

9 posted on 02/17/2016 3:51:27 PM PST by WHBates
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Total head fake by Trump. He would NEVER follow through on such a suit. Take it for what it’s worth. After Saturday this is a non-issue for Trump.


10 posted on 02/17/2016 3:52:52 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (u)
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To: Hilda

Ohhh .. that was a good one. I forgot we are against that type of stuff. Good post.


11 posted on 02/17/2016 3:54:25 PM PST by hawkaw
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dons lawsuits seems more like buying Lottery ticket, the more you buy the greater you chances......File frivolous lawsuits all over the country, he may get lucky on some.


12 posted on 02/17/2016 3:58:37 PM PST by annieokie
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“After Saturday this is a non-issue for Trump.”

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Funny I thought there were a few more primaries after SC. Donnie Kardashian hasn’t sewed anything up. Although it’d be nice if he sewed his mouth shut.


13 posted on 02/17/2016 4:00:43 PM PST by Mac n Jac (www.vetsfightingms.org)
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To: lormand

That they do, but we sure don’t.

They are like mini-me tRumps but not as cute.


14 posted on 02/17/2016 4:01:03 PM PST by beandog (TrumperTantrum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Floyd Abrams, the well-known First Amendment attorney (also the father of LawNewz.com's founder Dan Abrams) tells LawNewz: "Mr. Trump's threatened lawsuit against Senator Cruz is ridiculous, absurd, laughable.

Trump threatens to sue Floyd Abrams for being a nasty nasty man and a liar.

15 posted on 02/17/2016 4:02:55 PM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: Mac n Jac

Sure maybe there are, but only votes in open primary where dozens of liberals can vote for Trump matter.


16 posted on 02/17/2016 4:06:53 PM PST by Reaper19
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, 169 lawsuits just in federal courts alone. Lawyers must love him.


17 posted on 02/17/2016 4:08:32 PM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But it sure would be fun to see Cruz depose Trump for the suit as he said he would do today.......


18 posted on 02/17/2016 4:14:48 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Qwackertoo

//// Donald Trump is no novice on the courtroom docket, he’s been named in at least 169 different federal lawsuits (that’s not counting all of the cases likely filed in state courts across the country).


19 posted on 02/17/2016 4:26:17 PM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: madmominct

Mark Levin is full of sh**. This case is about Cruz’s eligibility.


20 posted on 02/17/2016 4:29:01 PM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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