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Trump crosses the line
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-14-16 | DrJohn

Posted on 02/15/2016 11:04:32 AM PST by Starman417

trump slimer

I am sick of Donald Trump. Utterly sick of him. I'm sick of his bullying, I'm sick of his whining, I'm sick of his profanity and I'm sick of his constant repetition.

Now I'm sick of his lying too.

Last night he blamed 9-11 on George W. Bush and he came right out and said that Bush lied the US into the war in Iraq. I think this time he has burned one too many bridges.

Bill Kristol:

Asked to defend his 2008 comment that George W. Bush should have been impeached, Donald Trump said: "They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction."

Interviewers should press Trump on this: What evidence does Trump have that George W. Bush and his top advisers knowingly lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? How many other government officials does Trump believe were in on the deception? What does Trump believe would have been the point of such a lie, since the truth would soon come out?

Watch this exchange. Bush does not interrupt Trump but Trump can't shut up.

https://youtu.be/I8cxTaaNZrw

BTW, Donald, the official tome on Iraq, the Silbermann-Robb report, says Bush did not lie.

"Even people at the highest level of the Iraqi regime believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction," Silberman explains. "Saddam was running a bluff. He was bluffing his own people, and he was bluffing Iran. It would have been impossible for any intelligence agency in the world … to have determined that Saddam had destroyed his weapons of mass destruction."

Even if the intelligence agencies had performed flawlessly, they would therefore have found themselves advising the president of grave dangers. "A first-class [intelligence] opinion would have said, 'We [the intelligence agencies] know Saddam once had weapons of mass destruction, we know that he proved capable of using them, and we have no evidence that he has destroyed them. Although we cannot prove that Saddam still has weapons of mass destruction, we think it highly likely that he has.'"

Silberman recently addressed the constant lying from the left (and from Trump):
"It is astonishing to see the 'Bush lied' allegation evolve from antiwar slogan to journalistic fact."
He added "as I recall, no one in Washington political circles offered significant disagreement with the intelligence community before the invasion. The National Intelligence Estimate was persuasive - to the president, to Congress and to the media."

Though it's politically convenient to constantly repeat the lie that Bush lied, no one from the left really ever bothers to explain why Bush would lie, as Kristol asked above. Trump sure as hell doesn't offer an explanation.

Never mind the fact that WMD's were found all over Iraq. I suspect there were far more found than we are left to know. It would be kept quiet so as not to tip off Al Qaeda and ISIS to its existence.

Never mind that a large part of the reason for the Iraq war was the same as the excuses for the war on Libya:

The Bush administration made the argument that in the post-9/11 climate there should be a belated reckoning with Saddam Hussein. He had continued to sponsor terrorism, had over the years invaded or attacked four of his neighbors, and had killed tens of thousands of his own people. He was surely more a threat to the region and to his own people than either Bashar Assad or Moammar Qaddafi was eight years later.
Trump compensates for his lies with increased volume. When Jeb Bush chipped Trump for his reality show history, Trump went  nuts:
While Donald Trump was building a reality TV show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe. And I'm proud of what he did."

"The World Trade Center came down during your brother's reign," Trump reminded Bush.

As if that wasn't enough, Trump kept stabbing:
"The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush," Trump said to a strong reaction from the audience. "That's not keeping us safe."
Again- blaming George Bush for 9-11. It's something I found and do find detestable for a self-proclaimed conservative. This is the mindless throw-away line of a liberal. It was following 9-11 that Bush built the security structure which kept the US safe since and which Obama has enjoyed and in some ways expanded upon. Trump has frequently accused Bush of knowing that 9-11 was coming and ignored the warnings. About that, Politifact says:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


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KEYWORDS: 911; bush; slimer; trump
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To: VanDeKoik
LOL. You are a Trump supporter and you can't even defend him. You go on and on about Cruz, who I don't even support!

By diverting to Cruz, you seem to be admitting what I say about Trump is true.

A vain, hysterical, can't-stop-talking 'man' who Tweets constantly is a metrosexual wimp. And one year ago EVERY Freeper would say that.

81 posted on 02/15/2016 11:48:40 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: uscga77

America is already under Divine Judgement. Read your Bible and pray!


82 posted on 02/15/2016 11:50:33 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: VanDeKoik

By the way, I constantly bashed Cruz for his friendship with Trump from the beginning, and I correctly predicted Trump would turn on Cruz, while both idiot Trump AND Cruz supporters were saying they were BFFs and would work together:

To: Isara
Cruz is going to wake up one day with a terrible hangover.

2 posted on 7/8/2015, 10:42:36 AM by nickcarraway
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83 posted on 02/15/2016 11:50:35 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: for-q-clinton

If Trump implodes I will support Cruz though it is a lost cause. Rubio will beat Cruz for the nomination.


84 posted on 02/15/2016 11:51:43 AM PST by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: nickcarraway

Dang-it! I didnt see it was you.

I have to make a note to look for your name and remember that you are not taking a side.


85 posted on 02/15/2016 11:53:48 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Fair enough. But honest: I am not taking a side in supporting anyone, but I am clear Trump is the worst of all 17.


86 posted on 02/15/2016 11:55:19 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Starman417; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale
I been posting here since the end of 2009 that GWB and company totally ...ed up by Invading/ occupying Iraq and they didn't know what they were doing.

And got many here mad at me for it.

But claiming that he knew there was no WMDs and purposely lied about it to get us into war:

1) totally smears GWB character with no basis
2) Doesn't even make sense

87 posted on 02/15/2016 11:57:40 AM PST by sickoflibs (Trumpetir : 'I don't care what he says, or ever said. He is the only one I trust"')
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To: Starman417

88 posted on 02/15/2016 11:58:43 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: MarvinStinson
Code Pink praises Donald Trump after debate

And a roving lunatic Glenn Beck and a big gay marriage supporter fund Ted Cruz. Your point?

89 posted on 02/15/2016 12:00:35 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: montag813

Code Pink and Trump supporters...hand in hand again for the third day.

Your analysis is silly. Completely devoid of any historical understanding of the region. As if it was some peaceful land before 2003. I suppose Clinton’s policy of regime change was baed on revenge for Bush’s father, too. What a damn joke this Trump movement has become.


90 posted on 02/15/2016 12:00:50 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: dragnet2
"I am sick of Donald Trump bullying"

Is that the best they've got? Aw, diddums needum safe space!

91 posted on 02/15/2016 12:03:18 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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Trump all the way


92 posted on 02/15/2016 12:03:42 PM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Starman417

Courageous DrJohn with his unverifiable CV because he’s scared to reveal who he really is. For all we know he works as a pharmacy clerk in a CVS, has never traveled out of the county he was born in, published 70 comments at FR, never been married, and has three wonderful cats.

“DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.”


93 posted on 02/15/2016 12:05:10 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Starman417

If Bill Kristol is attacking Trump, then I know that TRUMP IS MY MAN.

He makes it VERY EASY for us non-GOPe types.


94 posted on 02/15/2016 12:09:16 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: txrefugee

Another WORTHLESS Trump promise...

95 posted on 02/15/2016 12:09:40 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Does anyone consider Trump a conservative anymore?

More to the point, does anyone consider any member of the Bush clan a conservative any more?

96 posted on 02/15/2016 12:09:56 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: datura

Yes.


97 posted on 02/15/2016 12:10:01 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: JoSixChip

So if Castro were to praise Sanders, that would also mean nothing right? Because nothing means anything anymore right?


99 posted on 02/15/2016 12:15:29 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: Albion Wilde

Cruz and the RNC, et al, are being bankrolled by insider special interest and lobbyist.

For those capable of critical thought, there is nothing else we need to know.


100 posted on 02/15/2016 12:16:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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