Trump crosses the line

Flopping Aces ^ | 02-14-16 | DrJohn

[Starman417]

I am sick of Donald Trump. Utterly sick of him. I'm sick of his bullying, I'm sick of his whining, I'm sick of his profanity and I'm sick of his constant repetition.

Now I'm sick of his lying too.

Last night he blamed 9-11 on George W. Bush and he came right out and said that Bush lied the US into the war in Iraq. I think this time he has burned one too many bridges.

Bill Kristol:

Asked to defend his 2008 comment that George W. Bush should have been impeached, Donald Trump said: "They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction."

Interviewers should press Trump on this: What evidence does Trump have that George W. Bush and his top advisers knowingly lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? How many other government officials does Trump believe were in on the deception? What does Trump believe would have been the point of such a lie, since the truth would soon come out?

Watch this exchange. Bush does not interrupt Trump but Trump can't shut up.

https://youtu.be/I8cxTaaNZrw

BTW, Donald, the official tome on Iraq, the Silbermann-Robb report, says Bush did not lie.

"Even people at the highest level of the Iraqi regime believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction," Silberman explains. "Saddam was running a bluff. He was bluffing his own people, and he was bluffing Iran. It would have been impossible for any intelligence agency in the world … to have determined that Saddam had destroyed his weapons of mass destruction."

Even if the intelligence agencies had performed flawlessly, they would therefore have found themselves advising the president of grave dangers. "A first-class [intelligence] opinion would have said, 'We [the intelligence agencies] know Saddam once had weapons of mass destruction, we know that he proved capable of using them, and we have no evidence that he has destroyed them. Although we cannot prove that Saddam still has weapons of mass destruction, we think it highly likely that he has.'"

Silberman recently addressed the constant lying from the left (and from Trump):

"It is astonishing to see the 'Bush lied' allegation evolve from antiwar slogan to journalistic fact."

He added "as I recall, no one in Washington political circles offered significant disagreement with the intelligence community before the invasion. The National Intelligence Estimate was persuasive - to the president, to Congress and to the media."

Though it's politically convenient to constantly repeat the lie that Bush lied, no one from the left really ever bothers to explain why Bush would lie, as Kristol asked above. Trump sure as hell doesn't offer an explanation.

Never mind the fact that WMD's were found all over Iraq. I suspect there were far more found than we are left to know. It would be kept quiet so as not to tip off Al Qaeda and ISIS to its existence.

Never mind that a large part of the reason for the Iraq war was the same as the excuses for the war on Libya:

The Bush administration made the argument that in the post-9/11 climate there should be a belated reckoning with Saddam Hussein. He had continued to sponsor terrorism, had over the years invaded or attacked four of his neighbors, and had killed tens of thousands of his own people. He was surely more a threat to the region and to his own people than either Bashar Assad or Moammar Qaddafi was eight years later.

Trump compensates for his lies with increased volume. When Jeb Bush chipped Trump for his reality show history, Trump went  nuts:

While Donald Trump was building a reality TV show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe. And I'm proud of what he did."

"The World Trade Center came down during your brother's reign," Trump reminded Bush.

As if that wasn't enough, Trump kept stabbing:

"The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush," Trump said to a strong reaction from the audience. "That's not keeping us safe."

Again- blaming George Bush for 9-11. It's something I found and do find detestable for a self-proclaimed conservative. This is the mindless throw-away line of a liberal. It was following 9-11 that Bush built the security structure which kept the US safe since and which Obama has enjoyed and in some ways expanded upon. Trump has frequently accused Bush of knowing that 9-11 was coming and ignored the warnings. About that, Politifact says:

[jospehm20]

I am sick of republicans. I am sick of voting for them to repeal Obama care and getting no results. I am sick of voting for staunchly conservative republicans who campaign on stopping Obama and then reading about them giving Obama more power via the Corker Bill, TPA and fully funding all his pet projects. I am beyond tired of the republicans, which is the whole point of Trump running.

[Salamander]

I see my time was not wasted.

:D

[Salamander]

LOL

[JoSixChip]

So if Castro were to praise Sanders, that would also mean nothing right?

Yes, that is exactly right. castro should have no influence in American politics. It's people like you who give people like castro and code pink power. I know you won't see that now because you are blinded by desperation. But some day you will.

[The Right wing Infidel]

Heard about the USS cole bombing , bin laden did that attack almost a year before 911 and killed scores of American marines in that attack.

There was no excuse for Bush ignoring and not taking Bin Laden as a serious threat before 911

[elhombrelibre]

You’re so sick of Republicans that you’re willing to embrace a barely covert Democrat. Congratulations. That means you’re not fundamentally serious.

[dragnet2]

Trump today:

Obama is a terrible negotiator with everyone except the Republicans.

[jospehm20]

I think you are not any kind of serious if you want a NBC Canadian to be president.

[dragnet2]

Cruz and the RNC, et al, are being bankrolled by insider special interest and lobbyist.

Is there anything else anyone needs to know?

No comprendo elhombre?

[MarvinStinson]

JoSixChip isn’t bright enough to know that he is code pink’s bitch.

[beandog]

Trump is his own special interest. He’s only interested in the Donald.

[dragnet2]

[TraditionalMerica]

yea, sick of someone who doesn’t toe The Party line.

[jospehm20]

That is funny, sad and true all at the same time.

[avenir]

I’m in a semi trailer loading freight. No window but there is a nice skylight.

[Intolerant in NJ]

Never mind that a large part of the reason for the Iraq war was the same as the excuses for the war on Libya...and never mind that Trump's assertion that the mideast was "stable" with Saddam in power is pure fantasy - Saddam was a Sunni running a minority Sunni regime in a majority Shiite country by murdering thousands of his own people every year to keep them terrorized into submission - he had managed to best Shiite Iran in two wars previously with the help of the US, but we were not going to help him again after his excursion into Kuwait and his repeated defiance of the peace agreement ending that war - his military was badly demoralized and degraded after that war - remember the "Highway of Death" back into Baghdad from Kuwait and the pictures of thousands of burned out trucks and civilian vehicles along the way - there seems little doubt that had we not gone into Iraq, by now it would have been overrun by Iran several years ago, Saddam deposed, and Iran in control of its population, oil, and the 500 tons of yellowcake uranium Saddam had amassed on his way to nukes - the real chance for stability in the region came with our remaining strong there, but Obama threw that away....

[mkjessup]

Code Pink praises Donald Trump after debate

So your vote is based on what code pink does or thinks? How's it feel to be code pink's bitch?

It depends on whether Code Pink gave Marvin a pair of their infamous purty pink panties.

[nomifyle]

oh boo hoo

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

Then the Saudis saying nice things about Obama has absolutely no bearing on American politics. Got it. LOLOLOLOLOL. You’re such an idiot.

[JoSixChip]

You're such an idiot.

And you are very easily manipulated my FRiend.