Posted on 02/14/2016 1:10:50 AM PST by Fhios
Trump explained why he changed his mind about that. If you don’t believe him, that’s your problem. If you do believe him you should be celebrating.
I do celebrate his becoming Pro Life
But it Disqualifies him as President
Also any man with a comb over is emotionally un sound
“I do celebrate his becoming Pro Life
But it Disqualifies him as President”
You want a pro-choice President?
Or does someone ALWAYS have to have been pro-life to make it in your book?
Honestly, it doesn’t make much difference anyway. We could get the strongest pro-life President in there and he or she isn’t going to do squat about overturning Roe v. Wade.
I might be able to support Trump
if he wasn’t such a classless nasty Truther Nut Job.
His Immigration Policy is Good
but everything else borders on the childish and Democrat
You mean like, pro-life, pro-second amendment, conservative justices on the Supreme Court, getting rid of political correctness - yep. All staples of the Democratic platform for years.
Actually
I was referring to
His voting for Democrats
his support for 50 million baby killings
His announcement that he is a Truther
His support of a Judge who fought for Partial Birth Abortion
His mocking of the Disabled
His Support of Crony Capitalism
His Support of single payer health care
His call Carly’s face ugly
His attack on Scalia for being Anti Affirmative action
His support for higher taxes
Why does a grown man have a comb over ?
Almost everything you list is a half-truth, out-right lie or spin.
Arguing with a Cruzer is EXACTLY like arguing with a liberal - ultimately pointless.
Perhaps you can tell me which are out right lies
It would be a start
Yes, I could. But it’s pointless.
Is anything I could possibly say going to change your mind about Cruz?
Is anything you could possibly say going to change my mind about Trump?
So why waste our time?
There are a handful of conservatives who are working out real well... like Ted Cruz. Just not enough of them.
"With Trump at least you have a chance he will work for us"
I agree there's a chance. And a chance he won't. Ted Cruz has a proven record. On any issue other than immigration, so does Rubio... we know he sucks on that issue, but he's reliably conservative on everything else, and articulates conservatism well to influence others. Ben Carson has proven character. Trump said this week something to the effect that he can be whatever he wants to be... that's what concerns me. He has a track record of CHANGING his mind--even during the campaign I've heard him "evolve" positions since last summer.
"At the very least, Trump's success in the private world is built on doing what he says and getting it done."
?!?!? Yeah, doing what he says TO PEOPLE WHO PAID HIM. He's accountable to people with whom he makes business deals. If he wins the Republican nomination, watch him start becoming less conservative to win more votes in the general. It's predictable. Like most politicians, odds are he'll make different promises to different people and tell the general electorate exactly what they want to hear, just like he's now telling conservatives what they want to hear.
“Yeah, doing what he says TO PEOPLE WHO PAID HIM. He’s accountable to people with whom he makes business deals.”
There is where you miss it. Business deals are made on paper, legally binding. Political deals are made on K Street. Conflating business deals with contracts is far different that the political contract of an envelope slipped into a pocket.
My bad example doesn't negate the point, however, that I prefer candidates to be accountable to people whose views I mostly share.
"Trump will be accountable to voters. If he screws up he'll be a one term president."
How do we know he even WANTS two terms? And a bad president can do INCALCULABLE damage in one term. See: Jimmy Carter. For example, Trump is making nice promises right now about the kind of Supreme Court Justice he would appoint. If he was a reliably honest person like Ben Carson, I'd trust those assurances.
"So when Cruz has the power that he wants, what will he do? Nobody knows."
Baloney. We know how he will act in Washington, because he's been there. And has a track record of being different than the vast majority of politicians, standing up for conservative values.
Listen, I'll vote for Trump over a Democrat any day. But the man is demonstrating a lot of really poor judgment lately. Skipping the Iowa debate was a bad decision. Buying the "Bush lied, people died" LIE shows he lacks depth in geopolitical analysis and IS NOT LISTENING to subject matter experts like he claims he does.
That is what I was taught and it has always worked well for me."
Amen!
Thank you, Bernie Sanders!
Actually, my understanding is that corporate contributions to politicians have never been more limited than they are today, and that only the recent Supreme Court case that liberals are so upset by has begun to reverse that trend.
Nevertheless, until the left controls the Supreme Court, corporations, who, in fact, are individual Americans freely choosing to work together to accomplish larger goals, are fully entitled to exercise their free speech rights to donate to any cause or politician in which they believe.
Yeah, the problem is that the change I fear most from Trump is changing AFTER he gets the Republican nomination, but BEFORE the general election, thus before being sworn in as POTUS. I expect him to be singing a very different tune when he is looking for all votes, not just mostly conservative Republican ones. He said in an interview just this week that he can be anything he wants to be.
"then the game changes considerably unless he pulls an odumbo and starts issuing executive orders. I do not see him doing that."
Neither do I. When he's president, I'm more worried about him compromising conservative principles in order to make deals with Dems in congress to get what he wants... and what he wants may not be all that conservative either.
Miss what? I get your point, I just don't agree with it.
I understand the possibility of corruption when money is involved in politics. Nevertheless, the 1st Amendment guarantees money will remain in politics.
The thesis of Trump and his supporters (and Sanders and his, for that matter) is that all CORPORATE money is corrupt. But the truth is that you can receive donations and not always do what your donors want on every issue. Yes, human nature means that politicians can be easily corrupted. But track records like Cruz's evidence a man who is NOT easily corrupted--whether you like Cruz or not, his political actions have always been in line with his stated principles. Trump on the other hand changes principles more often than some people change clothes. Sure he won't be corrupted to violate his principles, but isn't it just as bad to have a politician who changes principles on whims?
| OK, I hear your call for freedom for Americans and Saudi Arabians (I guess) to be able contribute as much as they want to the candidates of their choice -- if that's what you propose. And I thank you for your civil call for debate, ala Bernie Sanders. It's clever and a good parallel actually :-) But what's the end result of what you propose? The corporate elite has so much power today that they can open our borders and totally destroy the culture of the society so that it falls into decline and steadily decays into a banana republic. I think there would be a coup d'état if that ever happened, but why risk getting to that point. I think the founding fathers would strongly object. Actually it's not just the corporations and politicians who are corrupt, the people themselves are corrupt (see my tagline). We put controls on the Stock Market, why can't we put controls on political contributions and lobbying? I don't know what those measures should be, but something needs to be done. I've often thought that the government should move out of Washington to some place in the wilds of Montana to discourage all the lobbyists from even coming to live there. I would welcome a Bill of Rights for businesses. At the same time, I would retain the power to control companies who are too "big to fail" -- and therefore require government bail outs. No company should be too big to fail -- they need to be cut down in size so they are not willing to live by the laws of capitalist risk. What do you think? |
This is not about making me believe in you or Trump
It is about telling the Truth
The Truth is powerful
Why not just tell the truth
What are the Out Right Lies ?
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