[kiryandil]

[Finicum] attempted to crash through a roadblock...

Freeper Ray76 has conducted an analysis from the video that Finicum came around the blind curve doing in the mid-60s.

It's evident he had NO time to do other than what he did, without steaming straight into the trucks parked there.

I like Jack Black's analysis about the "unmarked vehicles" everywhere. I didn't notice that little fact before, but now it stands out like a sore thumb.

[MurrietaMadman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjl1hefqqWI

One of the things I'm puzzling over is that figure who runs toward the truck in an effort to get away from it. I'm not using any high speed video equipment but that figure just seems to appear out of nowhere at the 5:49 mark of the edited version linked above.

I'm wondering, Ray, during your analysis did you notice that figure breaking away from others who might be standing next to or behind the dark pickup truck or does it actually appear as it does to me?

If you think that's oddball tinfoil, consider this.

Recalling the Clinton Foundation involvement in facilitating the sale of uranium laden land could it be all those out of uniform shooters are foreign nationals protecting their property rights the only way they know how?

[ponygirl]

Very long and detailed audio has been posted over at Oathkeepers of an interview with an Indiana SWAT officer who gives his take on the video. Stewart Rhodes interviews Oath Keeper SWAT Officer About the LaVoy Finicum Shooting

[exerpt] "In this audio interview Stewart Rhodes interviews Greg McWhirter, an Oath Keeper SWAT officer, about the road block and tactics used on LaVoy Finicum ... Greg gives us his expert insight into why most police departments across the country no longer use road blocks, as was used in Oregon this last week that ended with such needless bloodshed. Greg has requested a copy of the Oregon State Police's policies, and we are waiting to review them, but the danger of roadblocks is reflected in the Portland Police department's policy, which forbids the use of a roadblock (aka, "barricade") in the manner in which we saw used last week:

630.05 Vehicle Pursuits:
d. Barricading: Barricading is considered deadly physical force and subject to DIR 1010.10.
1. Barricading requires the approval of a supervisor. Furthermore, the barricade must be set up in such a manner as to afford the fleeing suspect ample time to see the barricade and stop his/her vehicle."

The interview is long and the audio is not great, so here is a rundown of the topics covered:

1. Political pressure applied by the Oregon (appointed, not elected) Governor and Oregon Senators Wyden and Merkley interfered with law enforcement doing their jobs. (Wyden had famously stated 4 days before the shooting that the standoff was "a situation where the virus was spreading" and action needed to be taken. Gov. Brown used heated language describing the group as "armed radicals" and "criminals" even though they had not been charged with any crime.)
2. At the behest of politicians forcing them to do "whatever necessary," the OSP chose to use a roadblock/barricade, a prohibited and antiquated technique which has been rarely used since the early 1990s. There is a long discussion of whether or not it was OSP or FBI at the barricade. McWhirter seems to think that the FBI would not have bungled up something so badly by attempting a roadblock.
3. According to McWhirter, Finicum was given no choice but to run the roadblock (as he could not see it), and officers were given no choice but to shoot. It was a no-win situation for all parties.
4. McWhirter believes that Finicum was tasered by the officer approaching from behind. Notice how he stumbles and flails his arms as if stung (or shot, as some believe), and his arm motions indicate that he may be pulling the barbs and wires out of his side or out of his coat. (Upon review, Finicum's movements are very similar to those of Ammon Bundy when he was tasered 3 times by the BLM at the Bundy Ranch standoff, each time pulling the barbs and wires out.)
5. These flailing arm movements are construed as reaching for a weapon; Finicum is fatally shot.
6. McWhirter believes that Finicum family has a good case for prosecution; unfortunately will not bring their loved one back.
7. There is also a discussion about the officers shooting at the vehicle. He said that he thinks they were using non-lethal "stinger" rounds, which set off small charges and spray rubber pellets. "Otherwise, no one would still be alive inside that vehicle." However, this doesn't explain Ryan Bundy being shot in the shoulder with a bullet that is still lodged in his arm, according to his wife.