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To: savedbygrace

Is this the question you want me to answer:
Do they ever provide any historical support for this claim?

Here is my response if I am understanding you correctly:
Historical support for what claim? Labels? Spectrum of Governing? Whether Mad Max tribalism is an end product of no more civilized govt.? No, TCH didn’t address those issues with historical examples. Can’t figure out why you would want them to do so as that didn’t seem to be the point Sundance was making. I think he was implying that we need governance, no matter how bad (the Bible tells us so). Infiltrators came to Oregon and muddied the waters as govt. moles - and crazy anarchists were there as well - the agenda expanded out of control, original intent with it.

Tyranny should be abhorrent to We the People, but it’s creeping in faster and faster. The Oregon story was given context by Sundance/TCH in past posts. What happened next, no one had much control over except the Govt. Two men are in prison for no good reason, and that makes me very very angry. One man was shot down in the snow in a ‘show ‘em who’s boss.’ That makes me very very angry, too.

What do you have in the end when there is no longer legal recourse based on Rule of Law and a fair hearing? What do you do when your elected officials in this Constitutional Republic ignore us and do the opposite of what is lawful and right?


51 posted on 01/31/2016 10:44:38 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

What claim? The claim I quoted from the article. You are not being an honest debater. His claim is false.


57 posted on 01/31/2016 11:05:14 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Sioux-san

What do you have in the end when there is no longer legal recourse based on Rule of Law and a fair hearing? What do you do when your elected officials in this Constitutional Republic ignore us and do the opposite of what is lawful and right?


There is rule of law and those who surrendered will have their day in court. I am not sure they will sway the court of public opinion because I am still unclear what their demands are.

If you don’t believe in speed limits or disagree with the speed limit on a particular road does that mean you don’t have to stop for blue lights behind your vehicle?

How are you being ignored? Is the armed takeover of a bird sanctuary in a state you don’t even live in lawful and right? The sentence for the Hammonds does inspire some public sympathy, but is the best way to get such a sentence commuted to conduct an armed takeover of property that you do not have legal authority to occupy?


64 posted on 01/31/2016 11:14:15 AM PST by volunbeer
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