"It is still the current designation for the round." No, it is not, never has been and never will be. Please go to SAAMI's website and educate yourself about correct cartridge designations. Their site is saami.org
".45 ACP has been the designation since the early 1900s." Sort of. It started out as ".45 AC" and soon transitioned to .45 ACP and somewhat later to ".45 Auto" Why do you suppose the rimmed version introduced shortly after WWI was designated ".45 Auto Rim" rather than ".45 ACP Rim"?
The commercial transition in names took almost two decades as The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufactures Institute (SAAMI) was not founded until 1926. SAAMI formally changed the entire serious of "ACP" designations to "Auto" in 1940. It's the headstamp stupid.
Somewhat related, the U.S. military has never chambered any of their weapons for either the .45 ACP or .45 Auto. Not the 1911 pistol series, not the 1917 revolvers, not the Thompson SMG series, not the Riesing SMG, not the M3 Grease Gun serious, not the Liberator Pistol or anything else. All were chambered for the CARTRIDGE BALL CALIBER 45 MODEL OF 1911. The military does not use cartridge designations on small caliber ammunition head stamps. "He must be a noobie (sic)." Not quite. Are you even capable of checking FReepers commencement dates or educating yourself?
Ok. In order to shut down this conversation I’ll just say “you win”.
But I will continue to use .45 ACP and .45 Long Colt as will most of the shooting public because the shooting fraternity understands the designations. And ultimately we shall do as we d@mned well please.
Now please go away. You’re very annoying.
Buffalo Head,
You came out of the gate with a chip on your shoulder using such abrasive talk as “WTF” and “Read the Headstamp Stupid”.
Later you responded to other posters with other drivel “folks that don’t have a clue” and “you need help”.
My response to you was unseemly as well by calling you “an arrogant little prick”, and for that I apologize.
But after revisiting this most excellent thread, excellent because I like knowing how my bud freepers feel about shtf fire arms and plus a little conflict makes things more interesting, one thing stands out to me;
While you like to brag about your knowledge you lack common wisdom, and you come accross like a jihadist in your fervor to belittle everybody about their “lack of knowledge”.
If you had common wisdom you would accept the fact that EVERY firearm builder from Colt Manufacturing to Springfield and all those in between who build a 1911 variant list their products as .45 ACP, not
45 Auto. Every reloading manual from Hornady’s to Nosler list the load data .45 ACP or in parentheses next to .45 Auto.
And while you are mostly correct inasmuch as headstamps are marked .45 Auto, there are still manufacturers such as IMI who headstamp their brass .45 ACP.
That being said everybody who’s been on this thread knew what ricmc2175 was talking about when he referred to a .45 ACP, fact is even You knew what he was talking about.
I’d suggest you take your private little jihad to a gun forum but I know for a fact you’d get treated like the sniveling idiot that you are in a far worse fashion. Maybe you’ve already tried it. Lol.
Anyway your “knowledge” doesn’t impress anybody here with the way you try sharing it, and I imagine if we were all at the gun club together you’d get bitch slapped for the arrogant little prick that you are. Uh, figuratively of course...
I apologize again for calling you an “arrogant little prick”.
And remember, most of us don’t give a rat’s ass if you want to call the cartridge a .45 Auto, hell you could call it a “little Buffalo pecker head” and we’d be fine with it.