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To: nopardons

“I suggest that you learn recent American history!”

“Recent”????? I think not.

FRiend, Mr. Trump cannot do what he is saying, and it would be a very bad predident to set.

What is to keep a future POTUS or Congress from excluding conservative Christians, et. al. This is really quick way to set up future second and third order effects that are not intended.

I share the fear of many here of Muslim immigrants, and MOST certainly think they require more scrutiny. However, to make a blanket “no muslims” is not a realistic or smart thing and I am surprised that more cannot see this.

I again submit that even Mr. Trump knows what he is saying to not doable and unwise, but he is more concerned in pleasing a crowd than doing something truly substansive other than rhetoric.


100 posted on 12/07/2015 6:48:15 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
Keep those blinkers on and forget I engaged you.

You're one of those who know nothing at all about America's old immigration policies and and are imagining a nonsensical supposed future situation.

You're wrong, but you just refuse to see it.

103 posted on 12/07/2015 6:51:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Sola Veritas

....”Even Mr. Trump knows what he is saying to not doable and unwise, but he is more concerned in pleasing a crowd”.....

As an example we often see.....When Trump was on the Arizona Border , on national TV, Trump boxed himself into saying he would offer amnesty to the illegal aliens who aren’t the “bad ones.”....... He seemed to be defensive and trying to prove that he isn’t hostile to immigrants by also indicating he would like to see legal immigration increased for the “good ones.......he plays both sides with any angle that can move the moment favorable to him....even when it isn’t.

Seems to me that’s exactly what the politicians do he so often is critical of.....and sounds very liberal.


118 posted on 12/07/2015 7:04:20 PM PST by caww
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To: Sola Veritas
What is to keep a future POTUS or Congress from excluding conservative Christians,

They pretty much already do.

121 posted on 12/07/2015 7:09:22 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Sola Veritas
I'm not your "friend"; I don't make "friends" with people who aren't rational.

FDR refused to allow JEWS in during WW II and sent the ship back to Germany, for all on it to die.

FDR didn't kill all German, Italian, and Japanese people in America.

Obama's administration has already tried to and may have done so by now, an immigrant European Protestant family, because they were home schooling their kids.

Any future Congress and/or president might try to do what you claim; they certainly SHALL do that, once the dxamned Muslims take over this nation !

133 posted on 12/07/2015 7:28:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Sola Veritas

You must not have read the rest of his statement.

Trump said we need to stop Muslim immigration “until they get it figured out”. Which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

He said nothing about permanently stopping it.


173 posted on 12/07/2015 8:19:55 PM PST by Amntn
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To: Sola Veritas; MinuteGal; oswegodeee; hoosiermama; onyx; DoughtyOne; Jane Long; entropy12; ...

“What is to keep a future POTUS or Congress from excluding conservative Christians, et. al. This is really quick way to set up future second and third order effects that are not intended.”

Obama and his regime are already keeping would be Christian refugees from Syria, Iraq, etc. out of the U.S., and leaving in only predominantly Muzzie refugees. The future you refer to is here already, via our President and his rejection of Christian refugees.

We can keep any refugees we want away from our shores, have done so in the past, and will again in the future, whenever we choose to do so as a people. That is, once we get rid of our PC Marxist/Fascist leadership. It started with that old f*rt Jimmy Carter, when he began excluding immigrants from our own cultural heritage and background, predominantly European in nature, and opened the floodgates to Haitians, Middle Easterners, Africans, Southeast Asians, etc., people from cultures very alien to our own.

We’ve been on the downhill slide ever since. Now there is a bare trickle of immigrants from our own cultural heritage, and a deluge of immigrants from countries most unlike our own and who assimilate poorly. Some diversity is good, but we have diversity to a fault. See Somali immigrants living up in Minnesota or Middle Easterners in Dearborn, Michigan for an example of a Jihadi, Sharia law mind think and lack of any desire to become uniquely American. The Balkanization of America.

We owe immigrants from other countries nothing, and we already allow them in on a selective basis, always have and always will. We pick and choose those whom we allow into our country all the time. We have taken long pauses in allowing immigrants into our country before and we can do it again, at whim. It is up to us, our government, our people, our policies. Unfortunately, we are being led now by a pack of jackals who want America to fail. They must go.

You are talking out of your hat, don’t know what you are speaking to regarding immigration, and want to give immigrants a status that they do not hold, unless we grant it to them. So get off your high and mighty immigration high horse, claiming for refugees and immigrants privileges and entitlements they do not have unless we deem it to be so.

By the way, Christian conservative refugees don’t have inclinations to lop other people’s heads off, like the Muzzie death cult does. Or set off bombs, or stab or shoot their fellow citizens in the name of their religion and their ideology, which is one and the same. Big difference in behavioral patterns, in case you haven’t noticed.

You would choose to allow a potentially radical Muzzie 5th column to enter into our country to our detriment and eventual demise as a unified culture. We no longer are a haven of safety for those that would add to our society rather than subtract from it or attempt to undermine it. The likes of Sharia law may appeal to you, but not to the rest of us, thank you.

Go push your Muzzie loving cultural admiration elsewhere rather than making an attempt to foist it off on our country. We are still for the moment predominantly an Anglo Saxon and European heritage, a Judeo Christian culture, not quite yet a third world hellhole done in by rampant immigration from other third world country hellholes. And such immigration being jammed down our throats by socialist and globalist, highly venal and elitist leaders. PC will be the death of our way of life sooner than later if this keeps up.

No thank you. Move to the EU or the Middle East if you are interested in a cultural diversity disaster in the making. Reverse immigrate yourself, please.


179 posted on 12/07/2015 9:15:00 PM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: Sola Veritas
I again submit that even Mr. Trump knows what he is saying to not doable and unwise, but he is more concerned in pleasing a crowd than doing something truly substansive other than rhetoric.

Projection. You hope that is what is happening because your fear that Trump will defeat your candidate has set your mind in stone; but throwing out your amateurish wishlist about what the Constitution doesn't say (but you wish it did to support your bias) won't make it so.

196 posted on 12/07/2015 11:58:51 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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