Posted on 11/25/2015 11:57:19 AM PST by IChing
Exactly. Once deadly force is decided, the number of shots is really moot. Oh, wait, it’s “excessive” to kill someone more than you already did....sheesh
Those are the facts.... regardless of what the author of the article says about it not mattering how many rounds were shot.
If the numbers on the coroner's report corespond to the sequence of shots fired then #1 & #2 were fatal. Everything else would be abuse of a corpse.
He was shot with a tazer. It had no affect.
I'm not aware of any post you did, and for those of us having been trained in deadly force (I was an infantryman and an embassy guard), the video speaks for itself. I didn't feel compelled to have to back shit up.
But here you go: The idiot didn't pose a threat warranting that shooting. Now his career is over and he will be doing the perp walk.
Right, so all intentional homicides are murder 1, huh?
If you intend to kill someone, and you then kill them.... in Oklahoma... you have met the requirement for premeditation. That’s the law... whether we like it or not... in Oklahoma. I realize you are a security extraordinary expert. But in Oklahoma... that’s the law. So in Oklahoma.... if you decide to kill someone, and then do it... you better have a darn good reason for doing so.
Nonsense. Legal definition is more precise. By yours, all intentional homicides, including self-defense, are murder 1. Sheesh.
Who knows.... maybe you and the author of this article are going to argue that the cop didn’t mean to kill someone.... he was just performing according to his training. I’m just saying.... he’ll need a good attorney to make that case.
Guy.. I know you’re the expert ... or so your profile says... I’ve got the jury instructions. It is what it is. Maybe you didn’t get to write the law in Oklahoma?
Self defense is justifiable. The cop will not get away with arguing self defense in this case.
” Someone has to police a violent and belligerent inner city population and I for one am willing to give the cops the benefit of the doubt.
Ditto !!!!
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I generally agree when it ces to bad shots, but I don’t this time. Anyone who has seen people on PCP can attest to the incredible danger they present. Growing up in California in the eighties, I can know of many incidents where perps continued their berserk rampages after taking enough punishment to stop a horse.
The perp’s behavior and brandishing a weapon warranted the shot in my book. I see no reason for all the hand-wringing. He was a dangerous perp with a deadly weapon. What else do you require to shoot?
You and I with our carry and conceal could not shoot him in that situation. At least not based on what I saw in the video. We couldn’t claim self defense.
May I suggest reading the present article? It’s written by a former military policeman and sworn law enforcement officer with over 30 years of training and experience. Numerous others on other foums concur, btw. That is, in reply to your specific claim.
Scroll down to the part that it talks about malice a forethought. See how long it takes to establish premeditation. The law is sometimes different than what people may think it is... certainly different than what we may think it should be.
Read the last paragraph again. You missed something important.
The point is your imprecise language. Words have meanings.
Don’t know if it is the case, but I beleive most cops have tasers? Most I have known and do know carry them. Shoot the taser first, was that done?
The guy wasn’t charging them, was walking sideways and possibly away from them. Murder, clearly murder.
I don’t understand the riots and crap because they charged him with murder, and rightly so.
Or read about the legal definition of self defense. And what happens if the combatant withdraws from the fight.
The author of this article may be a decorated war hero, security expert whatever. But that doesn't mean he is giving good legal advice.
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