[Travis McGee]

You are an optimist on this, but my main point is the entire disaster is an "own goal," traitors inviting in the population that will present Europe with a bloody and brutal civil war that otherwise would not have happened.

It's not as if we don't know what happens when nations permit large groups of angry Muslim "refugees" in to settle.

They become MORE violent and crazy, not less.

[Lazamataz]

You are an optimist on this

Meh. More a realist. While we build Safe Zones in colleges and offer our military recruits 'Stress Cards' so they can 'opt out' when things get too harsh, Russia remains brutal and trains their soldiers for true combat.

Provided Russia chooses well, Europe will be saved.

but my main point is the entire disaster is an "own goal," traitors inviting in the population that will present Europe with a bloody and brutal civil war that otherwise would not have happened. It's not as if we don't know what happens when nations permit large groups of angry Muslim "refugees" in to settle.

Agreed. And in a just world, the globalists will hang from ropes for this.