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Passage to America, 1750 (Rougher than expected!)
Eyewitness To History ^ | c. 1750 | Gottleib Mittelberger

Posted on 10/30/2015 1:54:11 AM PDT by Loud Mime

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To: ckilmer

I didn’t realize the mortality rate was THAT high. Thanks. My ancestors came from England sometime before the Revolution to Virginia.


21 posted on 10/30/2015 10:13:47 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: Loud Mime; SunkenCiv

Thanks. Rather eye opening.


22 posted on 10/30/2015 10:15:18 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Swordmaker; Jacquerie; Billthedrill; Publius; Elsie

ping


23 posted on 10/30/2015 11:29:48 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; stop gambling on forgiveness.)
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To: reed13k

Calm down. It was written by a German in 1750 or so. It’s from a journal. Things were different then.


24 posted on 10/30/2015 11:30:37 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; stop gambling on forgiveness.)
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To: Textide

As I read this I kept stopping to visualize what the writer conveyed. My god, it must have been horrible.


25 posted on 10/30/2015 11:32:47 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; stop gambling on forgiveness.)
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To: Loud Mime
...during the voyage there is on board these ships terrible misery, stench, fumes, horror, vomiting, many kinds of seasickness, fever, dysentery, headache, heat, constipation, boils, scurvy, cancer, mouth rot, and the like...

...but enough about my Navy career. (Some people complain about every little thing).

You had to really want to be here and be willing to endure that sort of hardship. Sometimes I want to strangle certain glib proggies who dismiss the lot of them as "illegal aliens". It's so far from the same thing it's scarcely worth considering, and there wasn't any welfare waiting for them at the destination. 130 years earlier the Mayflower brought a hundred or so people into New England in late November. The wonder is that anyone at all survived.

26 posted on 10/30/2015 11:42:29 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: silverleaf

And this is why we Americans are who we are. We are these peoples descendents. People who pulled up stakes and undertook a perilous voyage for a chance to carve out a new life in a new land. To take advantage of all that the new world had to offer.

And for some, perhaps most, it was an expensive voyage in more ways than one.


27 posted on 10/30/2015 11:42:53 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Loud Mime; Textide; SunkenCiv

My paternal ancestors were indentured Irish.

Textide, I was surprised to learn that it’s still incredibly risky. Following a professional mariners’ forum made me realize that. DH’s boss is a retired Navy Swimmer & recently told him (in a conversation about the El Faro) that ships sink all the time- you just don’t hear about it.
You wouldn’t think- considering the size, construction, & technology of modern shipping, that would be true. How these wooden ships made it is a wonder.

Thank you for the ping, SunkenCiv.

ps. One of the mariners on the forum has a tagline I like. It says something to the effect that if you find a man who doesn’t believe in God, send him to sea. I’d been thinking that there was a marked absence of atheists there.


28 posted on 10/30/2015 12:43:43 PM PDT by KGeorge (Make America Great Again- Ahead of Schedule & Under Budget.)
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To: Textide
"For the current year, 1738, a special name was needed, the Year of the Destroying Angels.

About 58,000,000 dead in a little over 4 decades.


I hope you like brimstone, America...

29 posted on 10/30/2015 1:53:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Loud Mime

Those are indeed vivid descriptions. History is a weird and wonderful thing to ponder.

To think we’re descended from the survivors of not just the crossing but the various plagues in Europe for the previous 1000 years not to mention the literally medieval medical practices before the 20th century. What our ancestors have seen....


30 posted on 10/30/2015 3:11:53 PM PDT by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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To: Elsie

The day will come when the barbaric practice of abortion will face history. It will not be kind. At least the Spartan society allowed a child to be born before determining if it was ‘weak’ and then left outside in the elements to die.

Relating to this thread, each farming family would usually have many children in the hope that some will live through childhood to become adults. Kids had a harder time in the long crossings as well, often dying first. Our success in reducing infant mortality along with the move out of the farming life has reduced the need to have so many children. Killing them in the womb has become preferable (and legal) to being ‘burdened’ with their care and support. Throw in many other societal and family changes over the years and those that came over on these crossings wouldn’t recognize or accept what we’ve become.


31 posted on 10/30/2015 3:22:42 PM PDT by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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To: Loud Mime

One of our ancestors was born at sea in the 1700s. It’s a wonder (and mercy!) that the poor baby and his mother survived. Well ... we know he survived ... hope she did, too.


32 posted on 10/30/2015 3:23:18 PM PDT by Cloverfarm
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To: KGeorge

Thanks KGeorge.


33 posted on 10/30/2015 4:00:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Loud Mime

50,000 convicts had reached the colonial shores... Their descendants are members of the democrat party.


34 posted on 10/30/2015 4:05:57 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: reed13k

Ummmm...the man from the 1700’s wrote it in a journal. That is how they spoke then.


35 posted on 10/30/2015 4:09:44 PM PDT by madison10 (If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter)
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To: minnesota_bound
Then there is Australia...
36 posted on 10/31/2015 4:30:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: madison10
Dis is how we b do it now...
37 posted on 10/31/2015 4:34:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Textide

I contrast the character of the people who came to this country with that of the cell-phone absorbed drones walking around the University campus where I work.

Those dumb-asses will stride into a crosswalk without even a glance at the traffic. Their situational awareness is zero. All that matters to them is the presentations on that little device.

These people will be capitulants at the first sign of trouble.


38 posted on 10/31/2015 7:17:29 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; stop gambling on forgiveness.)
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To: minnesota_bound

I used to be a Democrat - - Kennedy style.


39 posted on 10/31/2015 7:19:37 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; stop gambling on forgiveness.)
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