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To: Partisan Gunslinger
"Liberals have nothing on you lost-causers when it comes to revisionism"

I'm sure it sounds like revisionism to someone who thinks that the version of history he learned in elementary school is gospel.

Vitriolic attacks on the South as the hated Slave Power were already going strong in the North by 1800 election of Thomas Jefferson.

John Adam's Secretary of State Timothy Pickering was a prime mover in all of it and John Quincy Adams did his share as well. Pickering was part of the powerful Essex Junto of Massachusetts that had formed in the 1770s. Pickering and his band of Federalists hated the South enough that they tried to get New England to secede from Jefferson's United States.

That was just the beginning of the decades long campaign against the South that culminated in the Civil War. Historian Thomas Fleming examines this forgotten part of American history in his recent book A Disease in the Public Mind. Probably not a book for those who like to believe that the Civil War began with Ft Sumter so you may want to skip it.

57 posted on 11/01/2015 9:06:28 AM PST by Pelham (A refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Pelham
I'm sure it sounds like revisionism to someone who thinks that the version of history he learned in elementary school is gospel. Vitriolic attacks on the South as the hated Slave Power were already going strong in the North by 1800 election of Thomas Jefferson.

Well-deserved. Slavery since the crucifixion is evil.

John Adam's Secretary of State Timothy Pickering was a prime mover in all of it and John Quincy Adams did his share as well. Pickering was part of the powerful Essex Junto of Massachusetts that had formed in the 1770s. Pickering and his band of Federalists hated the South enough that they tried to get New England to secede from Jefferson's United States. That was just the beginning of the decades long campaign against the South that culminated in the Civil War. Historian Thomas Fleming examines this forgotten part of American history in his recent book A Disease in the Public Mind. Probably not a book for those who like to believe that the Civil War began with Ft Sumter so you may want to skip it.

Fort Sumter was the start of the war. People hate people, always will. You and others on this thread hate northerners and want to secede as much as anyone you mention hated the south and wanted to be separate from them. But until there is another Fort Sumter, it is just talk that always has existed, always will.

59 posted on 11/02/2015 11:23:52 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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