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The Twin Peaks Massacre Coverup
The Aging Rebel ^ | 9/7/2015

Posted on 09/07/2015 2:37:39 PM PDT by Elderberry

This is the 114th day of the Twin Peaks Massacre coverup. It is worth noting for two lamentable reasons.

First, the degree to which government officials have been uncooperative, obstructive and evasive about the Massacre is prima facie evidence that there is an official coverup. There was no probable cause to believe that most of the 177, or 182, or so, people arrested that day were guilty of “engaging in organized criminal activity.” There is probable cause to believe that police murdered at least six men and may have attempted to murder 20 more.

The second reason to note the ongoing coverup is the apparent disappearance of what just a few years ago was being called “the investigative impulse” in American journalism. The investigative impulse began, according to Jon Marshall of Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism, “in the 1600s, when Enlightenment philosophers taught that ‘people have a right to question their leaders.’”

To its inerasable shame, the Waco Tribune-Herald has not noticed the coverup. To its credit, the Houston Chronicle has. “Any time a prosecutor’s office or a politician does not want people talking about something, one should raise a red flag and insist we talk about it,” a law professor named Patrick Metze told the Chronicle this morning. “They may say it is to protect the investigation, but they are protecting themselves from whatever it is that they don’t want us to see or know about.” You can read the entire Chronicle piece here.

Based on information supplied by various sources who believe their lives, careers and pensions are in actual danger and who have spoken with The Aging Rebel under conditions of either “off the record” or “deep background,” this page will continue to report that the Twin Peaks Massacre was the result of a contrived and avoidable confrontation between members of the Cossacks Motorcycle Club and the Bandidos Motorcycle Club. The Aging Rebel believes that the confrontation was engineered by and anticipated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; the Texas Department of Public Safety and a Waco area law enforcement agency that was not the Waco Police Department. The Aging Rebel also believes that these police agencies, and possibly the Waco Police Department, began physically preparing for an armed confrontation to include the use of deadly force in the Twin Peaks restaurant parking lot at or before dawn on May 17. And finally, this page believes the Massacre was captured in its entirety by at least 44 video cameras. Investigating This Mess

The Associated Press defines information gained “off the record” as information that “cannot be used for publication.” The same news agency and most publications define “deep background” as information that “can be used but without attribution. The source does not want to be identified in any way, even on condition of anonymity.” Generally, information gained off the record can only be used after being substantiated by additional independent sources. Off the record information tells reporters where to llok and what to look for.

Off the record information about federal police actions is often substantiated by filing Freedom of Information Act requests with, for example, the Disclosure Division of the ATF. The information requests involving bikers are almost routinely denied on the grounds of either what the FOIA Act calls “Exemption Seven” or one of three “Exclusions.”

The exempt information is defined as, “Certain types of information compiled for law enforcement purposes.” The three exclusions are: One, “Subject of a criminal investigation or proceeding is unaware of the existence of records concerning the pending investigation or proceeding and disclosure of such records would interfere with the investigation or proceeding;” two, “Informant records maintained by a criminal law enforcement agency and the individual’s status as an informant is not known; and three, “Existence of FBI foreign intelligence, counterintelligence or international terrorism records are classified fact.”

Exclusion three is one reason why motorcycle clubs are frequently described as “transnational gangs.”

Taken together, the exemption and exclusions explain why “gang investigations” are always classified as “ongoing” even when the newest information in those investigations is more than a decade old.

After a FOIA request is denied, large news gathering organizations and some private law firms have the means to bring suit in federal court to discover exempt and excluded information. The Aging Rebel does not have the resources to pursue such lawsuits at this time. This page is aware that many of its conclusions about what happened in Waco on May 17 are unsubstantiated sand have been described as “speculative.” As one 23-year-old reporter recently put it, “A blog favorable to motorcycle clubs citing an undisclosed source…is not credible.”

Credible or not, the authorities in Texas have been blatantly manipulating public opinion since the day of the Massacre and the Department of Justice has, as yet, not chosen to intervene. One plausible explanation for that inaction is that the Department of Justice has been involved since sometime before May 1.

The Aging Rebel stands by its coverage of the Waco Twin Peaks Massacre and will continue to pursue the story.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: biker; nuttery; texas; waco; zot
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To: humblegunner

The M-60 was “7.62 NATO”, but his whole post smacks of BS.


161 posted on 09/08/2015 9:47:47 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Nifster
Guess what? I am about as sympathetic as if you told me that the Mafia got shot up

This analogy would work if the "Mafia" that got shot up was a bunch of Italian-American men and women with zero/zip/nada criminal histories or records, dining at an Italian restaurant where under-cover cops decided to instigate a shoot-out between a small number of authentic Mafia guys said UCs had manipulated into having a meeting at that site.

Of no concern to you at all if you are not of Italian descent. Go on about your business, nothing to see here, move along.

ANYTIME you present yourself as being on the same side as me, Nifster, I will regard you as being as dangerous as a Trojan horse.

162 posted on 09/08/2015 9:53:24 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: volunbeer; Nifster
ON the contrary, very badly and ignorantly stated with a MOUNTAIN of due process concerns.

I cannot believe how many Trojan horses there are on FR -- and I'm supposed to think you'd fight side-by-side with me for freedom? You CLEARLY are on the side of tyranny, manipulation, and slavery. Any claims either one of you make of having your fellow Americans' backs in defense of freedom, is BUNK.

You guys, both of you, are submissive subjects of civil servants and present as much danger to American freedom as abusive government.

163 posted on 09/08/2015 9:59:33 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: volunbeer
The two main groups that caused this conflict are purely criminal organizations.

You are gullible beyond belief.

164 posted on 09/08/2015 10:01:07 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: Cboldt

Great posts. Thanks.


165 posted on 09/08/2015 10:02:24 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: volunbeer

Simply put, you need to read a LOT more, outside of Free Republic. You’re obviously opining from a place of enormous ignorance. You’re like a person who has never played the piano, having an opinion on how easy it is to play Bach’s 2-part Invention #2.


166 posted on 09/08/2015 10:05:35 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: easternsky; Crystal Palace East; volunbeer; Nifster
THE amount of People that are okay with the way this went down is very disturbing, and when they come for them they are going to be shocked nobody will be there to cover their backs. I said in a post back in May that most of these people there I would want in a foxhole with me if stuff goes down, and cannot say that about posters here that have been okay with this scenario.

Amen, Brother Freeper. Well said. I pinged three of those WEAK GULLIBLE SISTERS who would be liabilities in any fight or foxhole, above.

167 posted on 09/08/2015 10:10:03 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: don-o; Crystal Palace East; RitaOK
See, don-o and Rita? MORE PROOF that the weak, deceitful, empty and false side on this is the one defending the cops. CPE has zero of substance to communicate, so he can only do the same thing as the rest of the weak sisters in his gang -- lie or insult or both.

He is out of ammo, has zero zip nada substance, so he is reduced to either bearing false witness or heaving insults. IT IS A RED FLAG, Rita.

168 posted on 09/08/2015 10:13:11 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: driftless2
Isn't your brother worried about living in a state supposedly known for "law and order" but where the police are so incredibly inept that prior to May 17, TWO THIRDS of these "bunch of nasty bikers" had never even been arrested for a misdemeanor, let alone caught and convicted for a violent crime?

What kind of amateur cops would have such a huge failure rate? Your brother should MOVE because he is in danger.

169 posted on 09/08/2015 10:17:34 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: Finny

Then I guess those mc clubs involved in the incident don’t engage in illegal activities, right? They don’t deal drugs, guns, and do other illegal things, right?


170 posted on 09/08/2015 10:30:23 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Prayers up for you successful and relatively painless minor surgery today, dear Mrs. Don-o.


171 posted on 09/08/2015 10:32:40 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8 - Look it up. I miss the Gipper. Wish we still had someone like him.)
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To: volunbeer
I choose not to associate with criminals or criminal organizations.

Do you belong to the Red Cross? Do you give money to the Red Cross?

You belong to a church, I expect. Are you aware of how many criminals are in that church? Have you hired a PI to do a background check on each one and discovered how many have arrest records of criminal convictions? How many are Felons? Or are you so provincial as to expect none of the above in an average grouping of righteous Americans?

You belong to a service club, I expect. Are you aware of how many criminals are in that club? Are you aware of rules that club has broken with regard to its non-profit status?

The idea of "I choose not to associate with criminals nor criminal organizations" is based on the quaint illusion that you can identify criminals by groups and organizations.

CRIMINALS are only ever individual human beings, and in fact quite a few of Jesus' disciples would qualify in your book as "criminals."

You engage in group-think just like the cops did at Waco. No wonder you're so easily gullied.

172 posted on 09/08/2015 10:34:30 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: don-o; Mrs. Don-o

You sound like such a prince! Mrs. Don-o is a lucky lady, and you are a lucky man. GOD BLESS you and yours with good health and love!!!


173 posted on 09/08/2015 10:41:46 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: Robert Teesdale
Fortunately patriots have rifles for when conversation fails.

Reminds me of a line from one of my favorite movies, Aliens:

What are we suppose to use -- harsh language?"

174 posted on 09/08/2015 10:44:28 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: driftless2
Most of them -- NO, they don't.

You need to get out more and STOP getting your world view from the History Channel, the MSM, and Sons of Anarchy.

175 posted on 09/08/2015 10:54:00 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: TheOldLady; Mrs. Don-o

From the scene - out of recovery. Should be headed out soon.


176 posted on 09/08/2015 10:57:02 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

Read the info last night on here, was up early Praying for you and yours.


177 posted on 09/08/2015 10:59:55 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: Finny
You need to get out more and STOP getting your world view from the History Channel, the MSM, and Sons of Anarchy.

ALL 1%er club presidents wear pristine white Nike kicks. Right?
178 posted on 09/08/2015 11:00:25 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: don-o

“For those who need to get up to speed ...”

How 172 Bikers Could Face Murder Charges For Waco Shootout

http://www.vocativ.com/news/193925/feds-could-hit-bandidos-biker-gang-hard-after-texas-shootout/


179 posted on 09/08/2015 11:03:19 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: don-o; Crystal Palace East
"Oh my!!! That really hurts. Excuse me while I slink away and weep bitterly."


180 posted on 09/08/2015 11:05:24 AM PDT by TexasGator
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