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To: don-o; Ethan Clive Osgoode
don-o, thanks for keeping these threads going. It is REALLY helping me and I am certain many other FReepers, to sort true conservatives from naïve sheltered ones who watch too damned much TV, from downright suspiciously anti-liberty pro-tyranny folks posing as "conservative," though admittedly it's next to impossible to discern the merely sheltered/gullible ones from the truly anti-American.

Can there really be that many grown-up self-described "conservatives" who view American bikers with the same accuracy that Ralphie viewed the utility of having a Red Ryder bb-gun to defend his family and home against Black Bart and his gang of bad guys?

ECO, with such an impressive name, like a three-piece suit ... you mean to tell me that you are so incredibly gullible that you believe the police narrative on the whole Waco charade? Such nonsense as ordinary wallet chains as "weapons"?

Nevermind. You are either that gullible and sheltered ... or you are that devious an agent against American liberty. It can only be one of the two.

33 posted on 08/31/2015 11:53:50 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: Finny; don-o; Ethan Clive Osgoode
don-o, thanks for keeping these threads going. It is REALLY helping me and I am certain many other FReepers, to sort true conservatives from naïve sheltered ones who watch too damned much TV, from downright suspiciously anti-liberty pro-tyranny folks posing as "conservative," though admittedly it's next to impossible to discern the merely sheltered/gullible ones from the truly anti-American.

I agree , don-o has been doing everyone a strong service by keeping this matter at the forefront.

With respect to the weeding and sorting between ally and adversary, that's always a ongoing process. Counterintelligence is an enterprise continuity effort, something to repeatedly pursue and with the understanding that all issue closure is transient. One must always go back and revisit.

Can there really be that many grown-up self-described "conservatives" who view American bikers with the same accuracy that Ralphie viewed the utility of having a Red Ryder bb-gun to defend his family and home against Black Bart and his gang of bad guys?

There is never a shortage of your fellow men willing to don a uniform and load trains by force. I strongly recommend the first part of a well-done analysis from Casey Research (the second half is aimed more at investors):

The Ascendance of Sociopaths in US Governance

In particular, a very important point is made:

On the other hand, the distribution of sociopaths is completely uniform across both space and time. Per capita, there were no more evil people in Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Mao's China, Amin's Uganda, Ceausescu's Romania or Pol Pot's Cambodia than there are today in the US. All you need is favorable conditions for them to bloom, much as mushrooms do after a rainstorm.

Conditions for them in the US are becoming quite favorable. Have you ever wondered where the 50,000 people employed by the TSA to inspect and degrade you came from? Most of them are middle-aged. Did they have jobs before they started doing something that any normal person would consider demeaning? Most did, but they were attracted to – not repelled by – a job where they wear a costume and abuse their fellow citizens all day.


I agree with the finding that conditions are now favorable in the United States as described. Consequently, it would do well for you to be prepared for the aforementioned bloom.

ECO, with such an impressive name, like a three-piece suit ... you mean to tell me that you are so incredibly gullible that you believe the police narrative on the whole Waco charade? Such nonsense as ordinary wallet chains as "weapons"?

My opinion is worthless and unnecessary; nonetheless I will offer it.

Ethan and TexasGator and a few others are not suffering from gullibility or declaring belief of sincere trust in the rectitude of the State or the moral imperatives of law and order. Those are merely gossamer whispers of color, wrapped and layered around a hard pillar of something far more frightening: the heartless interest of an excited sociopath.

Nevermind. You are either that gullible and sheltered ... or you are that devious an agent against American liberty. It can only be one of the two.

It's neither, it's merely a side effect of the bloom.

It has been with interest that I have watched the back and forth between Ethan, TexasGator, and others. The anger that is provoked by their posts; the difficulty in pinning down an exact example; their evident pleasure in the success of their manipulations of dialogue; the revulsion that is the end result of interaction. It is not a mysterious thing.

Evil is the exercise of political power - that is, the imposition of one's will upon others by overt or covert coercions - in order to avoid... spiritual growth. (Peck)

And:

The feeling that a healthy person often experiences in the presence of an evil one is revulsion. (Peck)

Sociopaths ascend, and the devoted architects of the Adversary walk as lions upon the earth, their prowls inbued with purpose and anticipation.

We've all been here before. On this day in history, Poland was invaded and the great lions sprang and tore and fed. We all know where that led, too.

Am I saying that Ethan and TexasGator are evil?

How does the social contract they espouse make you feel?

It's only a clue. That's all I offer.

As I noted, my opinion is worthless and unnecessary.

But I have one.
75 posted on 09/01/2015 8:01:04 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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